The closest to a rattlesnake or cobra without venom?

[Arachnaeoccult]

Whats the closest thing to a rattler or a cobra that someone can find on the pet market which holds little to no venom(little meaning like a tarantula or scorpion sting) ?

[Jocarp]

Originally Posted by Arachnaeoccult

Whats the closest thing to a rattler or a cobra that someone can find on the pet market which holds little to no venom(little meaning like a tarantula or scorpion sting) ?

You could look into hognose snakes, they are venomous, but from my understanding their fangs are in the back of their mouth and couldn't actually give you a dose unless you let them sit there and chew on you. My friend had one when we were younger and I remember her being shy, but friendly and very good looking! IF she struck, which was rare, she never even opened her mouth.

Good luck,

[Arachnaeoccult]

but it if does you die!!!

Has that ever happened?

[SSSSnakes]

Originally Posted by Arachnaeoccult

but it if does you die!!!

Has that ever happened?

Local swelling and some pain, like a bee sting or a little worst.

[dross9615]

With hognoses from what I read al you get from a bite is a little itchy and irritated

[Minkness]

Western hognoses are a good choice as they are mildly venomous but are a rear fanged snake, so as mentioned above, don't just shoot you up with nurotoxins. IF you actually get bitten there will be pain and some serious swelling, but that is unlikely, and usually only if you have an alergy toit liie how some people are alergic to bees.

Mine are not shy, and usually are easilyseen in their tanks and have a medium activity level. A male can be kept in a 10 gallon tank. But a 20 long would be best for females.

No one has ever died from a hognose bite.

But, they aren't exactly cheap by your standards.

Not exactly why you are looking for more so soon after just getting your 1st 2. =/

[reptiledude987]

I would say either a hoggie or false water cobra.

[sirtalis]

I think a False Water Cobra can put a person in the hospital

[Tiny Boidae]

It's a little more severe than a hoggie bite, but it's usually not a big deal. The majority are also fairly tempered, and so long as you don't let them chew on you the chances of being envenomated are minimal. The problem is the snake itself is expensive, and they need large enclosures. They're too advanced for someone who's only had a corn snake and ball python, and on the off chance that it's foul tempered, it's not a pleasant snake for someone who wants something handable. I want one some day, but I'm trying to pace myself and work up to it

Edit: The hood is also not as impressive as a cobra's. It's not as flat and they keep their bodies low to the ground for it. If you want an animal that mimics something venomous, pueblan milk snakes are excellent examples and no venom included

[prairiepanda]

Hognoses have some characteristics of both rattlesnakes and cobras, and can put on some pretty awesome threat displays while still being easy to handle and overall good beginner snakes.

I don't think I would recommend a false water cobra, though...cool snakes, but the bite is more potent than what Arachneoccult is looking for, and with that size and speed they're best left to more experienced keepers.

[REM955]

Have you looked at Bull Snakes? They mimic rattlesnakes a bit when defensive. Closest I can think of.

[Nightflight99]

I'm not sure that I could recommend any suitable mimics of cobras or rattlesnakes, but I do have a few comments on Heterodon and Hydrodynastes. Mild reactions to bites from hognose snakes have certainly been reported, but they are not exactly common. Even if you do somehow manage to get a hognose snake to bite you, localized swelling and redness are on the extreme end of the spectrum, so they're certainly not generally considered to be medically significant. And while hognoses are very cute and cool snakes, they are not a very good mimic of a cobra or rattlesnake at all.

False water cobras can spread a decent hood, but they do not tend to raise up the anterior body portion much at all. I used to breed them for years, and they make awesome captives in a large display enclosure with a sizable water container. They also have a tremendous feeding response, and their size alone will make you want to avoid getting your digits chewed on by a large adult. If you're looking for a species that has a slow metabolism and a relatively low feeding bill associated with them, then Hydrodynastes is the wrong one.

[Jocarp]

I was suggesting a hognose since they have somewhat similar scales to what I think of with rattlesnakes growing up in rural Kansas. The other reason they came to mind was the mention minimal venom. Plus my friend's was a great little girl and you can get them for $75 or so (or a lot more for sure). They also don't get terribly big so I was thinking it would be a similar sized enclosure to the animal as the OP's signature (I assume, I know nothing about invertebrates).

To be honest I kind of want one so I may have been hoping to see someone else enjoy one haha

[Doug 351]

Get a Texas rat snake....non venomous...but mean by nature...not sure exactly what you want anyway...and don't think you do...

Seems like you want to play with fire....without getting burned....well....it's either HOT. or...not!

[SSSSnakes]

Originally Posted by Doug 351

Seems like you want to play with fire....without getting burned....well....it's either HOT. or...not!

Very well said.