New addition : 2015 Super granite checkered garter

Albert Clark · 04-30-15, 12:39 PM

One of my 2014 0.1 pastel checkered garters 66% het for granite checkered produced this scrub on 4-24-15. Left in a enclosure with her father for shedding issue they bred and produced this guy! Mom is pictured here. She is only 10 months old!

She produced two scrubs but only this guy survived. The other was a pastel.

**Minkness** · 04-30-15, 01:43 PM

Woah...total WANT!

Pogie · 04-30-15, 02:02 PM

Love the markings on that first pic.

Albert Clark · 04-30-15, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Minkness

Woah...total WANT!

Thanks Mink! This guy is a hold back for sure.

Albert Clark · 04-30-15, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pogie

Love the markings on that first pic.

Thanks Pogie!

**Minkness** · 04-30-15, 02:14 PM

Keep me informed on your super granites then! I know I want a garter in my collection some day and was thinking about the neon blue red sided but that super granite is amaaaaazing.

Albert Clark · 04-30-15, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Minkness

Keep me informed on your super granites then! I know I want a garter in my collection some day and was thinking about the neon blue red sided but that super granite is amaaaaazing.

Cool, I will keep you posted on the project I will have for this guy. THANKS.

Hit me with a pm when you can......

Obsidian_Dragon · 05-04-15, 02:01 PM

Is it an actual super (hom) pastel, or just het, with granite?

Just being nosy, as I have a het pastel and was wondering if anyone really got far crossing the two.

Albert Clark · 05-04-15, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Obsidian_Dragon

Is it an actual super (hom) pastel, or just het, with granite?

Just being nosy, as I have a het pastel and was wondering if anyone really got far crossing the two.

The mother of this visual granite baby's mother is pastel checkered 66% het for granite checkered. Sired by her father who is a visual pastel checkered 66% het for granite checkered. Original pair of pastel checkereds I purchased from Jeff Benfer as pastel checkered 66% het for granite checkered.

Jeff Benfer actually was the original breeder of the granite checkered x pastel checkered pairing.

jossh27 · 05-05-15, 07:23 PM

What makes it a "super" granite checkered? In no way am i intending on sounding like a **** im just curious to how snakes get that title

It is a very awesome looking snake by the way! i would love to have it

ARCH3R · 05-05-15, 07:31 PM

Super is the same for all snake breeding. I won't pretend to know what granite is in garters so for arguments sake I'll assume it's recessive. By line breeding which he said he did he's bringing in two recessive parents which would generally show more distinct patterning than a het and recessive, not too mention the higher percentage of granites.

Albert Clark · 05-05-15, 09:06 PM

I believe it's more of the pairing of pastel checkered 66% het for granite checkered to the same genetics in both parents and having the offspring present as a visual of the hidden gene makes him a super. That is a imo. I certainly may stand corrected but that is what I thought. I will post some updated pics tomorrow to show his growth and look now.

ARCH3R · 05-05-15, 10:23 PM

Yes definitely. Sorry, generalization on my part I'm not always the best at writing down explanations. You're pairing obviously does create the super form, I just can't spell out the gentetics w/o knowing if it's recessive, codom or incomplete dom and the chromosome pairing.

Irregardlessly (my favorite of all the made up words) that is one gorgeous snake! I do have a question about garters. Ever since I saw a picture I've wanted a san francisco garter, but who doesnt. I see ads for neon blue and red stripe garter snakes. Are those real? If they are real, then is it that locale or a different one?

ARCH3R · 05-05-15, 10:55 PM

[QUOTE=ARCH3R;961226]Yes definitely. Sorry, generalization on my part I'm not always the best at writing down explanations. You're pairing obviously does create the super form, I just can't spell out the gentetics w/o knowing if it's recessive, codom or incomplete dom and the chromosome pairing.

Irregardlessly (my favorite of all the made up words) that is one gorgeous snake! I do have a question about garters. Ever since I saw a picture I've wanted a san francisco garter, but who doesnt. I see ads for neon blue and red stripe garter snakes. Are those a different locale? I thought san francisco garter was an untouchable dream like the indigos.

Machala2012 · 05-06-15, 06:10 AM

seems like a beautiful accident :P