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Old 09-26-14, 06:30 PM   #1
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Live or F/T

Do anyone have a option on what's best to feed
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Old 09-26-14, 06:36 PM   #2
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I prefer F/T
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Old 09-26-14, 06:42 PM   #3
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Edit: realized this is in venom forum.
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I always prefer f/t, a wounded/dying animal can be very dangerous.
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Always F/T.
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Re: Live or F/T

Moved this to the General Discussion section.

F/T is always my vote.
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All of the snakes eat F/T where I work, venomous or not.
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Moved this to the General Discussion section.

F/T is always my vote.
I do believe the intent of OP was to ask specifically for hots, hence it being posted there.
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I do believe the intent of OP was to ask specifically for hots, hence it being posted there.
If that is the case, fedupdon, let me know and I'll switch it back to the venomous section.
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I do believe the intent of OP was to ask specifically for hots, hence it being posted there.
I agree, it should be put back where it was originally posted. There was no reason to move it.
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Re: Live or F/T

Alright, alright. It's back in the Venomous section
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Old 09-27-14, 11:30 AM   #12
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Re: Live or F/T

frozen thawed is much safer to feed than live,live prey can bite the snake during feeding


i have nothing against folk live feeding

i just prefer not to put my snakes at risk by feeding live


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Old 09-27-14, 03:32 PM   #13
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frozen thawed is much safer to feed than live,live prey can bite the snake during feeding


i have nothing against folk live feeding

i just prefer not to put my snakes at risk by feeding live


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I don't have experience with venomous snakes, but I will say that I do have a problem with people feeding live if it's not an absolute necessity to get an animal feeding. Live feeding is cruel to the prey.
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I don't have experience with venomous snakes, but I will say that I do have a problem with people feeding live if it's not an absolute necessity to get an animal feeding. Live feeding is cruel to the prey.
we keep predators they eat meat,there's nothing cruel about live feeding

that said,i have only ever fed live once....

i tried a live rat pup with a non feeding carpet hatchling to see if it would kick in a feeding response,when the hatchling refused to take the pup...

i fed it to a coastal carpet hatchling,because i didn't fancy killing the pup myself,or letting the pup starve to death, because it was too young to feed itself

even though i'm too chicken hearted to feed live i still don't see it as cruel,i do see it as dangerous to the snake though mate

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we keep predators they eat meat,there's nothing cruel about live feeding

that said,i have only ever fed live once....

i tried a live rat pup with a non feeding carpet hatchling to see if it would kick in a feeding response,when the hatchling refused to take the pup...

i fed it to a coastal carpet hatchling,because i didn't fancy killing the pup myself,or letting the pup starve to death, because it was too young to feed itself

even though i'm too chicken hearted to feed live i still don't see it as cruel,i do see it as dangerous to the snake though mate

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I very much disagree. I think it is extremely cruel to put an animal through the terror and agony of being killed by a snake. Just imagine being constricted to death. It's not instant. And many venoms can be painful. Who knows what some of them feel like when used on a prey item that venom did not evolve to kill?

This is just my opinion, but I don't believe in the "It's the way nature works," mumbo jumbo. People don't apply that logic to non feeding reptiles that would have starved to death in the wild(Went was the last time you saw a wild pinky covered in chicken broth or tuna juice). They don't apply it to morphs that would put the animals at a disadvantage in the wild. What about genes that coincide with neurological issue that could very well get a snake killed?

The snakes wouldn't exist without us. There would be a need for feeder animals to die if it weren't for our collections. For me, I think that means we have to treat prey animals humanely and not cause any undue pain or distress.
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