Tiger rat snake or red tail green ratsnake

[babyboa97]

Tiger rat 6ft-$100
Red tail green 4-6ft $85
Basically sums it up. Which should I get
I have some experience with a 9ft tiger rat
And a lot of snake keeping experience over all

[wrecker45]

If it was me. I would probably buy both of them.

[Jim Smith]

They are both beautiful snakes, but I think I'd go with the red tailed green rat snake. Very different and distinctive looking snake. Great prices on both of them so if you have the space, you might take wrecker45's advice and buy both of them.

Jim Smith

[Primal Rage]

Originally Posted by Jim Smith

They are both beautiful snakes, but I think I'd go with the red tailed green rat snake. Very different and distinctive looking snake. Great prices on both of them so if you have the space, you might take wrecker45's advice and buy both of them.

Jim Smith

I'm would like to second what Jim said. Who wouldn't want a massive green snake with a red tail? Both species are on the nippy side. Might as well get the better looking one.. Unless your favorite colors are black and yellow.. Sorry Pittsburg and Ga tech fans

[erichillkeast]

Flip a coin, heads is one snake tails is the other. Once you flip it you will start to hope it lands on a certain side. That's the one you pick

But in all seriousness, which do you like more?

[babyboa97]

My friend has a tame 9ft tiger rat that I've come to love. It doesn't matter if it have me the most painful bite I've had lmao. I like the green rat better for the color. How big do they top out at?

[Primal Rage]

Originally Posted by babyboa97

My friend has a tame 9ft tiger rat that I've come to love. It doesn't matter if it have me the most painful bite I've had lmao. I like the green rat better for the color. How big do they top out at?

Females have been recorded up to 8ft. Holy crap! A tame 9ft tiger rat snake? I demand pics of you holding such a beast. J/K... But seriously I would love to see pics of the monster. How long has your buddy had him? WC or CBB?

[drumcrush]

The red tail green looks gorgeous!

[kwhitlock]

I have to say, they are both awesome snakes! I like the tiger, has a very cool and intimidating face. But something about that green red tail...WOW! It's a tough pick but I think I would go for the green red tail!

[SSSSnakes]

I've kept both and I like the Tiger Rat better. Thr dark black with yellow markings are awesome. Handling the snake is so cool, as the snake feels like it is filled with air, very light.

[babyboa97]

Originally Posted by Primal Rage

Females have been recorded up to 8ft. Holy crap! A tame 9ft tiger rat snake? I demand pics of you holding such a beast. J/K... But seriously I would love to see pics of the monster. How long has your buddy had him? WC or CBB?

I'll post some pics of that 9ft tiger when I get to go to his house again and take the pics lol
And it's wc he's had him about 7 months and it's been in the usa for about a year. And tame outside of the cage as can be. She's still cages defensive tho

[Roman]

Both are great snakes, if you have the means to keep them. I keep both of them. I currently keep 2,1 Spilotes pullatus (Tiger ratsnake) and 1,2 Gonyosoma oxycephalum (red tail green ratsnake). They don’t differ much in their basic needs, both need high temperatures and humidity and both like to climb.

So if you want to decide which one you want to keep, ask yourself how much space you are able to provide and how big you budget for future power expenses will be.

Spilotes and Gonyosoma are both large and active snakes. They will use all the space you can provide. In general, Spilotes will need a (much) larger enclosure as Gonyosoma. In my experience both species will be more active in larger enclosures, keeping them under minimum conditions will deprive you of a lot of fun watching the full range of their behavior.

- Spilotes will easily reach 10 ft (3 m) in length. Both of my males are currently about 2.8 m (>9 ft), my female is ca. 2.5 m (>8 ft) and they are still growing.
- Gonyosoma is reported to reach 2.4 m (8 ft), but I never had a snake longer than 1.8 m (6 ft.)

So a good enclosure size for Spilotes would be something about 7 x 3 x 5 ft (200 x 90 x 150 cm) (length x depth x height), whereas for Gonyosoma it would be 5 x 2 (3) x 5 ft (150 x 60 (90) x 150 cm).

Both need a lot of branches, some hiding places and you can provide life plants, which will help to maintain the humidity. Spilotes will sometimes stay on the ground, Gonyosoma will stay in the branches most of the time.

For both snakes I use only lamps for heating, UTH is useless for an enclosure of this height. For my large Spilotes enclosure I use a total of 210 W of lighting for 14 hours a day (so you can do the math about the amount of money you might need…).

Are the snakes you were offered wild caught or captive bread? I have no experience with WC, CB Spilotes are in easy to handle in most cases, in my experience Gonyosoma is more unpredictable and might try to bite you more often – on the other hand a bite from a large Spilotes hurts much more …

So if this is your first large arboreal Colubrid and you have the space I would suggest Gonyosoma, if you have even more space and more experience get Spilotes.



Please feel free to ask any question you might have...


Roman

[Primal Rage]

Originally Posted by Roman

Both are great snakes, if you have the means to keep them. I keep both of them. I currently keep 2,1 Spilotes pullatus (Tiger ratsnake) and 1,2 Gonyosoma oxycephalum (red tail green ratsnake). They don’t differ much in their basic needs, both need high temperatures and humidity and both like to climb.

So if you want to decide which one you want to keep, ask yourself how much space you are able to provide and how big you budget for future power expenses will be.

Spilotes and Gonyosoma are both large and active snakes. They will use all the space you can provide. In general, Spilotes will need a (much) larger enclosure as Gonyosoma. In my experience both species will be more active in larger enclosures, keeping them under minimum conditions will deprive you of a lot of fun watching the full range of their behavior.

- Spilotes will easily reach 10 ft (3 m) in length. Both of my males are currently about 2.8 m (>9 ft), my female is ca. 2.5 m (>8 ft) and they are still growing.
- Gonyosoma is reported to reach 2.4 m (8 ft), but I never had a snake longer than 1.8 m (6 ft.)

So a good enclosure size for Spilotes would be something about 7 x 3 x 5 ft (200 x 90 x 150 cm) (length x depth x height), whereas for Gonyosoma it would be 5 x 2 (3) x 5 ft (150 x 60 (90) x 150 cm).

Both need a lot of branches, some hiding places and you can provide life plants, which will help to maintain the humidity. Spilotes will sometimes stay on the ground, Gonyosoma will stay in the branches most of the time.

For both snakes I use only lamps for heating, UTH is useless for an enclosure of this height. For my large Spilotes enclosure I use a total of 210 W of lighting for 14 hours a day (so you can do the math about the amount of money you might need…).

Are the snakes you were offered wild caught or captive bread? I have no experience with WC, CB Spilotes are in easy to handle in most cases, in my experience Gonyosoma is more unpredictable and might try to bite you more often – on the other hand a bite from a large Spilotes hurts much more …

So if this is your first large arboreal Colubrid and you have the space I would suggest Gonyosoma, if you have even more space and more experience get Spilotes.



Please feel free to ask any question you might have...


Roman

Very informative post!

[Primal Rage]

Not my 1st pick but check these guys!
For Sale Tiger Rat Snakes - FaunaClassifieds

[Roman]

Originally Posted by Primal Rage

Not my 1st pick but check these guys!

I know Donnie and his wife from another forum as well as from some E-Mails we shared about keeping Spilotes. He has a great caresheet about Spilotes at his homepage and his snakes are just great. His new hatchlings are just a few month old. In my personal opinion he is a great source to get a CB Spilotes…

Some additional information…

Here is a detailed description about my Spilotes enclosure --> http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/gener...-pullatus.html

As a suggestion how you might set up an enclosure here are some current pictures of my Spilotes

The enclosure








and my Spilotes










Roman