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11-21-13, 06:22 PM
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Bear Grylls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSQ-uC-U4HU
(warning- contains monitor murder)
Does anybody else find this disturbing? This guy goes around the world killing animals which he supposedly eats. However, I contend that in fact, he and his film crew have a LOT of sandwiches with them. And coffee. I think the way this guy kills animals is totally unnecessary and sends the wrong message to people out there. The killing of animals- especially for questionable purposes, should not happen at all, and most definitely should not be televised.
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11-21-13, 06:39 PM
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Re: Bear Grylls
omg, that's awful
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11-21-13, 06:40 PM
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Re: Bear Grylls
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omg, that's awful
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Isn't it? If you read the comments there are a few people complaining about the cruelty but "the masses" seem to think that since humans are further up the food chain, we can do whatever we want. 
There's another episode of his TV show where he beats a snake to death with a stick. I don't remember which species but it was a large boa or python.
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11-21-13, 06:42 PM
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Re: Bear Grylls
Have seen this, discussed this and of course it is disturbing, we are a reptile community here.
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11-21-13, 06:46 PM
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Re: Bear Grylls
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Originally Posted by infernalis
Have seen this, discussed this and of course it is disturbing, we are a reptile community here.
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Oh, this was discussed on the forum already? Sorry. 
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11-21-13, 06:50 PM
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Re: Bear Grylls
Don't buy any Gerber Knives. I won't
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11-21-13, 07:02 PM
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Re: Bear Grylls
I hear the new fixed blade is better quality than the previous. I'm going to buy one just as a collectors item... and maybe do a few functionality tests.
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11-21-13, 07:11 PM
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Re: Bear Grylls
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Isn't it? If you read the comments there are a few people complaining about the cruelty but "the masses" seem to think that since humans are further up the food chain, we can do whatever we want.
There's another episode of his TV show where he beats a snake to death with a stick. I don't remember which species but it was a large boa or python. |
We are the apex of the food chain and can do what we please. Doesn't make it right though.
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11-21-13, 07:15 PM
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Re: Bear Grylls
It's a bit grotesque to watch. By the same token, I'm not sure if I find it that wrong. It seemed like he killed it pretty swiftly. It also seems a bit silly to call it unnecessary when most of us feed our pets other animals. Sure, Grylls doesn't NEED to kill and eat a monitor lizard, but we don't NEED to own carnivorous reptiles which create a demand for feeder rodents, which are then killed and fed to our pets.
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11-21-13, 09:57 PM
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Re: Bear Grylls
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Originally Posted by CosmicOwl
It's a bit grotesque to watch. By the same token, I'm not sure if I find it that wrong. It seemed like he killed it pretty swiftly. It also seems a bit silly to call it unnecessary when most of us feed our pets other animals. Sure, Grylls doesn't NEED to kill and eat a monitor lizard, but we don't NEED to own carnivorous reptiles which create a demand for feeder rodents, which are then killed and fed to our pets.
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But what I'm driving at here is that Bear Grylls' killings are unnecessary. He and his crew undoubtedly bring sandwiches with them. Do you really think a camera crew is going to eat monitor lizard cooked over a camp fire? Of course not. If they have sandwiches, he has them too.
It's unnecessary killing, for the sake of killing. And he's televising it, encouraging impressionable youth to go out and kill reptiles in their own backyard/ neighborhood.
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11-21-13, 10:13 PM
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Re: Bear Grylls
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Originally Posted by mistersprinkles
It's unnecessary killing, for the sake of killing. And he's televising it, encouraging impressionable youth to go out and kill reptiles in their own backyard/ neighborhood.
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I think he's trying to say that is what/how you should eat when you are in a survival situation(stranded in the middle of no where).
Dumb people will be encouraged by anything. The content doesn't really matter. It's how you take it.
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11-22-13, 12:21 AM
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Re: Bear Grylls
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Originally Posted by mistersprinkles
But what I'm driving at here is that Bear Grylls' killings are unnecessary. He and his crew undoubtedly bring sandwiches with them. Do you really think a camera crew is going to eat monitor lizard cooked over a camp fire? Of course not. If they have sandwiches, he has them too.
It's unnecessary killing, for the sake of killing. And he's televising it, encouraging impressionable youth to go out and kill reptiles in their own backyard/ neighborhood.
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This discussion inhabits a moral grey area. I think the majority of us have wasted food at one point or another. Supermarkets are filled with meat that passes a certain date and has to be thrown away. It wasn't necessary for those animals to be killed...
At the same time, many people who have been stuck in survival situations have pointed to shows like Man vs Wild and Survivor Man as what helped them to survive. Will Bear Grylls killing a monitor help somebody in one of those situations? I don't know, but it's not something I would automatically rule out.
And from my own personal experience, the kinds of kids that will go out and kill animals in their back yard don't need encouragement from anybody. I don't see this sort of stunt causing kids to kill reptiles when they otherwise wouldn't.
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11-22-13, 08:13 AM
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Re: Bear Grylls
the guys an arsehole.....
it was recently in the newspapers over here,that he was being flown out to hotels by helicopter,or sleeping in motor homes,after his filming was done impling he roughed it through the night.....
also the fact he picks up a snake,kills it just so he can take 1 bite out it,then throw it away pisses me off...
the guys a feckin tit...!!
cheers shaun
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11-22-13, 09:43 AM
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Re: Bear Grylls
As word from his produser "not me but friend of my room mate"there are no sandwiches and he only gets pulled out if the weather is really bad to stay In a hotel. He is an ex special ops and he dose eat what he kills. As for the media they print what sells papers.
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11-22-13, 10:01 AM
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Re: Bear Grylls
He only simulates survival situations and demonstrates survival skills. As far as I know if they show him sleeping outdoors he is but every other night they are back at the hotel. If you want to watch someone survive out in the wilderness watch Survivorman. I'm more impressed by the crew, they have to go everywhere he does but with gear.
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