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Old 09-06-13, 06:59 AM   #1
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Increasing humidity without misting/fogger?

Hello, I've been a long-time reader of this forum, but this is my first post as a member. Over the time that I've been lurking, I've been generally impressed by everyone's knowledge, expertise and enthusiasm to help others, which is why this forum was the first place I thought of to help solve my problem.

I live in NYC where humidity levels during the summer are high, so I never have to worry about having to increase the humidity levels in my snake's enclosure.

However, now that it's getting colder and humidity is dropping, it's definitely becoming an issue. My general method is to use a spray bottle and mist a few times a day, which works extremely well, but here is where my problem lies: I'm a full time university student, and I can't stand at my snake's enclosure all day misting away.

I'm looking for a way to increase the humidity levels without a) misting (can't be there all day to mist) and b) using a fogger (simply because I can't afford one.) I've thought about a few ways to do this: maybe place his water dish above the UTH or under the heat lamp so the water evaporates? placing a damp towel in the enclosure? No idea if these ideas would work.

Help me out?
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Old 09-06-13, 08:10 AM   #2
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Re: Increasing humidity without misting/fogger?

remember 8th grade earth science?

Put a layer of soil on the bottom of the cage, plant some grass seed.

I am serious as a heart attack, you put a mini lawn in there, and cover the top of the cage and presto you have a consistent humidity with minimal fluctuations.

One of the biggest challenges today is so many people trying to reinvent nature.

copy the animals natural environment, and all the technology wonders are nothing but trinkets to lure your cash out of your pocket.

I keep some of the most difficult tropical species thriving on nothing more scientific than a heap of dirt.

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Old 09-06-13, 08:28 AM   #3
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Re: Increasing humidity without misting/fogger?

yeah as Infernalis said, plants are great at increasing the humidity

foggers are excellent tho, I use them allot, I just buy the fogger unit, and then DIY a box to feed it into the enclosure (plastic box + tube + silicon), DIY job costs me £20 including the fogger unit - compared to the £99 some makers charge for a fogger machine lol

yep water dish over UTH will help, damp towels can help, but they also cool the enclosure significantly, so be careful with that one, i use that method in the summer when the temps occasionally go up


what kind of enclosure is it? glass/plastic/wood...? slide or swing doors? what kind of ventilation does it have?
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Old 09-06-13, 08:31 AM   #4
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Re: Increasing humidity without misting/fogger?

deep substrate that holds moisture will release it slowly
undertank heat pad with large water bowl placed above it will evaporate it slowly
seal off more of the enclosure, less will escape
live plants will release moisture into the air so consider planting some
fogger or mister will work, but you may need a stat to keep it from getting too high
Home made waterfall will work as well
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Re: Increasing humidity without misting/fogger?

What kind of snake?


Use a cheap humidifier from a drugstore in the roon your snake is in.
In my sbake room I have 2 steam humidifiers on an automatic hygrometer that is meant for a green house when humidity drops below 50% it kicks in and runs it back up to about 60-65% . I mist my royals and boas about once a weekand 50% is fine for my carpets and colubrids . You don't need a fancy controler. Just plug it in and keep it full until April
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Re: Increasing humidity without misting/fogger?

Hi just interested on how to make a home made water fall sounds intersting ???
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Old 09-06-13, 11:24 AM   #7
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Hi just interested on how to make a home made water fall sounds intersting ???
this is a nice video on one way to do it, with expanding foam, they can be as simple or complex as you want




How to make a waterfall (rainforest theme) - YouTube

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Thanks got to have a go on making one lol thanks for the vid
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Old 09-07-13, 06:10 AM   #9
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Re: Increasing humidity without misting/fogger?

I tried replying to you all individually, but for whatever reason, my posts keep getting denied because I'm using URLs or forbidden words. ?? No URLs in my post, and I'm not sure of what I said that would be considered forbidden. Sigh, new member problems.

Anyway, thank you all for your replies.

1. I have an anerythristic corn snake; he lives in an acrylic tank with an acrylic covering that has a mesh cutout.

2. I never thought of using soil because I've heard of so many people using aspen shavings with minimal problems. I used to use repti-bark, which held humidity well, but I had about a dozen other problems with it, so I switched. I've been really happy with aspen, except for this whole humidity thing.

3. Live plants seem like a great idea. A cheap humidifier may be the perfect fogger alternative. Thank you for your ideas.

4. Corn snakes aren't so picky and demanding with humidity and temperature levels; my snake is eating well and shedding just fine, so I may consider making a humidity hide box. Stick a live plant or two in a hide box, and he can go in there when he needs it. Hmm...

5. A homemade waterfall! How awesome! I'd love the DIY project.
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Re: Increasing humidity without misting/fogger?

I've never added humidity to a corn enclosure, a humid hide is all you need

of course a waterfall looks awsome, and so do plants, and its worth the effort if you are into diy and natural looking vivs, but its over kill in terms of corn snake humidity requirements
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Old 09-07-13, 07:22 AM   #11
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I've never added humidity to a corn enclosure, a humid hide is all you need

of course a waterfall looks awsome, and so do plants, and its worth the effort if you are into diy and natural looking vivs, but its over kill in terms of corn snake humidity requirements
I thought so, too. I'm going to go with the humid hide. Thanks!
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I've never added humidity to a corn enclosure, a humid hide is all you need
I have had my corn snake since '07 and have never done anything like misting or fogging.

Heck, I never even measured the humidity...

and soil makes a great substrate, do it bio active and never clean the cage again. let nature dissolve the poop.
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Re: Increasing humidity without misting/fogger?

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I tried replying to you all individually, but for whatever reason, my posts keep getting denied because I'm using URLs or forbidden words. ?? No URLs in my post, and I'm not sure of what I said that would be considered forbidden. Sigh, new member problems.

Anyway, thank you all for your replies.

1. I have an anerythristic corn snake; he lives in an acrylic tank with an acrylic covering that has a mesh cutout.

2. I never thought of using soil because I've heard of so many people using aspen shavings with minimal problems. I used to use repti-bark, which held humidity well, but I had about a dozen other problems with it, so I switched. I've been really happy with aspen, except for this whole humidity thing.

3. Live plants seem like a great idea. A cheap humidifier may be the perfect fogger alternative. Thank you for your ideas.

4. Corn snakes aren't so picky and demanding with humidity and temperature levels; my snake is eating well and shedding just fine, so I may consider making a humidity hide box. Stick a live plant or two in a hide box, and he can go in there when he needs it. Hmm...

5. A homemade waterfall! How awesome! I'd love the DIY project.
You do not need to go crazy. Where we live, humidity should be fine for a corn, even if you are using low wattage bulbs. If your humidity is anything below 40 here, your light is probably too powerful. The quickest easiest solution to this would be, cover your enclosure and go with a UTH.
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Old 09-08-13, 05:51 AM   #14
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Re: Increasing humidity without misting/fogger?

I used to never worry about humidity levels either because I know corns aren't picky about them and that the humidity levels in my apartment would be adequate.

However, the reason I started measuring is because he had a few bad sheds. I think the humidity hide will fix that though. If the levels in the enclosure are fine, then he can pop into the hide when he needs to.
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Re: Increasing humidity without misting/fogger?

I noticed that when I just put top soil into the terrarium the humidity level rose immediately. Not wet topsoil, just plain topsoil out of the bag. Add so cocoa fiber and I think you have the perfect substrata.

And when I select the soil I make sure there are no added fertilizers in there. Just plain, cheap soil.
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