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06-29-13, 04:26 PM
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Which snakes do you think should be bred in captivity more?
For the purpose of meeting the demand without harming the ecosystem, which snakes do you think need to be bred more often?
For example, I've heard that too many Ball Pythons are taken from the wild in Africa. At the same time, I see a lot of ball pythons for sale. So is it still necessary for more people to start breeding them (as in, more than the ones that already do)? If someone were to become a breeder purely for this purpose, which snakes would you recommend?
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06-29-13, 06:50 PM
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Re: Which snakes do you think should be bred in captivity more?
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For the purpose of meeting the demand without harming the ecosystem, which snakes do you think need to be bred more often?
For example, I've heard that too many Ball Pythons are taken from the wild in Africa. At the same time, I see a lot of ball pythons for sale. So is it still necessary for more people to start breeding them (as in, more than the ones that already do)? If someone were to become a breeder purely for this purpose, which snakes would you recommend?
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Green trees, emeralds and amazons
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06-29-13, 06:58 PM
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Re: Which snakes do you think should be bred in captivity more?
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Originally Posted by Lychee
For the purpose of meeting the demand without harming the ecosystem, which snakes do you think need to be bred more often?
For example, I've heard that too many Ball Pythons are taken from the wild in Africa. At the same time, I see a lot of ball pythons for sale. So is it still necessary for more people to start breeding them (as in, more than the ones that already do)? If someone were to become a breeder purely for this purpose, which snakes would you recommend?
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There are huge amounts of balls being captive bred.
Dumeril's should be bred more and if all goes well next season I should have quite a few little dums =]
I need to find a female when I get some cashola
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06-29-13, 07:04 PM
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Re: Which snakes do you think should be bred in captivity more?
Scarlet kingsnakes, I want one so badly but I can't find any
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06-29-13, 07:10 PM
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Re: Which snakes do you think should be bred in captivity more?
Hog island boas. They are extinct in their native environment.
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06-29-13, 07:25 PM
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Re: Which snakes do you think should be bred in captivity more?
Tiger rat snakes
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06-29-13, 07:30 PM
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Re: Which snakes do you think should be bred in captivity more?
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Hog island boas. They are extinct in their native environment.
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Well than I guess we don't have to worry about them taking any more wild caught specimens :P
I doubt the animals we captive breed in the hobby will make there way back do natural habitat and be reintroduced. We need more captive breeding of species BEFORE they go extinct.
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06-29-13, 08:37 PM
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Re: Which snakes do you think should be bred in captivity more?
Quite simply, the ones living in threatened habitats and currently in trouble. Even if we do damage wild populations, the reality is that unfortunately there will not be a "wild" for these species to live in for much longer. We need to put everything we've got into establishing sustainable breeding populations in captivity, or we will not see these species again.
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06-29-13, 08:56 PM
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Re: Which snakes do you think should be bred in captivity more?
I'd like to see more of the uncommon dwarf boas come up.
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06-29-13, 09:12 PM
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Re: Which snakes do you think should be bred in captivity more?
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Originally Posted by Pirarucu
Quite simply, the ones living in threatened habitats and currently in trouble. Even if we do damage wild populations, the reality is that unfortunately there will not be a "wild" for these species to live in for much longer. We need to put everything we've got into establishing sustainable breeding populations in captivity, or we will not see these species again.
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You're 100% correct.
I agree with the above. I don't want to derail too much here but I'd also like to the locales to be kept as pure as possible. Less crossing of them.
Everyone who's just saying what they wish to be seen more should just stop. There's a reason why they aren't bred more often like balls, corns and BCI. It's because 1. People can't deal with the animals 2. People don't have the space 3. People don't want to pay for them 4. People just don't put the effort into things that are more delicate on the scale of the common stuff. It needs to be hardy to make the "pet" trade. Unfortunately, not all species are.
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06-29-13, 09:35 PM
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Re: Which snakes do you think should be bred in captivity more?
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There are huge amounts of balls being captive bred.
Dumeril's should be bred more and if all goes well next season I should have quite a few little dums =]
I need to find a female when I get some cashola
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Good luck! I actually considered getting a Dumeril a while back, but I tend to be less accepting of snakes that aren't Ball Pythons. Guess I got the coward gene.
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06-29-13, 09:43 PM
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Re: Which snakes do you think should be bred in captivity more?
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Originally Posted by Pirarucu
Quite simply, the ones living in threatened habitats and currently in trouble. Even if we do damage wild populations, the reality is that unfortunately there will not be a "wild" for these species to live in for much longer. We need to put everything we've got into establishing sustainable breeding populations in captivity, or we will not see these species again.
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You make a great point. :O I actually didn't think of this, but I suppose it would be kind of futile to try to keep an animal in a place where there won't be room for it in the near future... That being said, I imagine that the list of snakes facing this predicament is extensive.
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06-29-13, 09:54 PM
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Re: Which snakes do you think should be bred in captivity more?
I plan on breeding my BCL pair in a year or two because you don't see them often. However it is because you can't get them from the wild and I feel they make great pets. They have amazing colors, personality, they stay kinda small at 6.5 feet max, easy setup and they just rock so there
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06-29-13, 10:02 PM
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Re: Which snakes do you think should be bred in captivity more?
I read somewhere that there is still a very small population of Hogg Isle BCI on the island. I'll see if I can track it down.
On Madagascar where dums are native it is common practice for the aborigines to kill snakes because of their religious beliefs and subsequently this has greatly reduced the number of wild Dumeril's boas. I think that if an organization of some kind could breed dums with the intent on releasing them into their native habitat then the population could be arisen. Of course, this wouldn't work unless the locals were educated on the benefits of having these creatures around. So lets breed some ****ing dums!
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06-29-13, 11:01 PM
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Re: Which snakes do you think should be bred in captivity more?
Google “The Hog Island Boa: squeezed to the brink of exctinction”. I can't post the link for some reason O_o
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