How long after regurgitation to feed snakes again

[Mikoh4792]

I'm getting mixed reviews. One poster here has told me that a snakes metabolism keeps producing digestive enzymes even right after regurgitation. I read elsewhere that snakes have this "gut flora" or bacteria that takes about a week to build up after regurgitation and that is needed to digest food.

What is your guys' take on this? I've tried searching the internet but I end up in places like yahoo answer, other forum boards..etc. I can't seem to find a legit article on this matter.

EDIT: Actually I just found an article on anapsid and it mentions something about the GI tract and esophagus up to the mouth being irritated by gastric fluids that come up during regurgitation. Maybe someone can shed some light on this as well.

[SnakeyJay]

The whole thing about building back up stomach acid/bacteria is outdated info as far as I'm aware..

That's the problem with the Internet, when new info/breakthroughs are made the old info and caresheets etc don't just disappear.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by Snakey-Jay

The whole thing about building back up stomach acid/bacteria is outdated info as far as I'm aware..

That's the problem with the Internet, when new info/breakthroughs are made the old info and caresheets etc don't just disappear.

That's good to hear.

What do you have to say about the linings of the GI tract or the esophagus becoming irritated or slighting inflamed from the digestive fluids? Is it just a very minor thing?

[SnakeyJay]

No idea that's why I didn't answer that part.. Sounds plausible but Ive not the personal experience to make a judgement.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by mikoh4792

I'm getting mixed reviews. One poster here has told me that a snakes metabolism keeps producing digestive enzymes even right after regurgitation. I read elsewhere that snakes have this "gut flora" or bacteria that takes about a week to build up after regurgitation and that is needed to digest food.

What is your guys' take on this? I've tried searching the internet but I end up in places like yahoo answer, other forum boards..etc. I can't seem to find a legit article on this matter.

EDIT: Actually I just found an article on anapsid and it mentions something about the GI tract and esophagus up to the mouth being irritated by gastric fluids that come up during regurgitation. Maybe someone can shed some light on this as well.

Yeah, the esophagus can be irritated but doesn't mean what you said. You said you'll give it a week for the digestive system to build back up. That has nothing to do with the esophagus.

Plenty of keepers actually feed the next day after a regurge. Snakes cannot wait a week in the wild for things to be okay if it happens. They need to be able to eat again right away if the opportunity arises because they just lost their latest meal and who knows how long it was before the last one. I doubt the esophagus or GI tract is really that damaged or irritated after a single one.

Link the article here. I'd like to see the scientific proof Ms. Kaplan has in her article.

[lady_bug87]

If I were you I would make the changes you want to make to the enclosure first, then once its as optimal as s it can be, feed it

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Yeah, the esophagus can be irritated but doesn't mean what you said. You said you'll give it a week for the digestive system to build back up. That has nothing to do with the esophagus.

Plenty of keepers actually feed the next day after a regurge. Snakes cannot wait a week in the wild for things to be okay if it happens. They need to be able to eat again right away if the opportunity arises because they just lost their latest meal and who knows how long it was before the last one. I doubt the esophagus or GI tract is really that damaged or irritated after a single one.

Link the article here. I'd like to see the scientific proof Ms. Kaplan has in her article.

I don't mean this in an offensive way, but I am just curious to get to know you. Is English your first language?

I don't know what "Yeah, the esophagus can be irritated but doesn't mean what you said" means.

Other than that I understood the rest of the paragraph. Thanks for the information.

EDIT: I said I would give it a week but from reading the posts from here including yours, I am letting go of the notion that snakes need to "recover" digestive enzymes. I am not saying that snakes need to recover enzymes, I am asking if they need to. I feel like you do not understand what I am trying to say through my posts which is why I asked if English was your first language. I don't mean any offense to you.

This article is for a general description of reptiles, not just snakes
Vomiting/Regurgitation in Reptiles

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by mikoh4792

I don't mean this in an offensive way, but I am just curious to get to know you. Is English your first language?

You can't say anything about my knowledge so you go after my language? Yeah that sounds about right for people that can't prove anything.

I don't know what "Yeah, the esophagus can be irritated but doesn't mean what you said" means.

This goes along with the next sentence in the small bit you decided to focus on. Do you understand reading comprehension?

I am not saying that snakes need to recover enzymes, I am asking if they need to.

Again, you pick parts to bounce around arguments because you never want to be wrong.

I didn't see a question in your original post where you mention this. Here's the quote and I'll link the post in case you forgot.

"What I'll do is let her recover her digestive fluids for a week or so and once I try feeding her again" - Apparently my English skills are week so I missed where the question was. You can point it out to me if you like.

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/843007-post47.html

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by mikoh4792

Vomiting/Regurgitation in Reptiles

I just read this. It isn't any kind of scientific article so I would use it as a starting point only. Nothing really to back up her claims. FYI, she's not well respected. Wouldn't really use anything of hers.

[Mikoh4792]

What is wrong with you? Your bitterness towards me is clouding your judgement.
Yes, it is true that at first I thought snakes needed a recovery period. However, I've come to terms with the fact that that proposition may be untrue.

Again, you are judging this the wrong way. I am not going after your language. I just told you.... I MEAN NO OFFENSE. I was curious to know because I really couldn't understand what the first few sentences of your post meant. They just don't make sense in the English language. It could have been a typo, English may not be your first language. How am I supposed to know unless I address this issue? This is exactly what I mean. You miss certain parts of my post and don't understand where I am coming from.

The point of this thread, if you read the op you will realize, is for me to ask you guys whether or not these rumors/consensuses are true or not. I am not advocating any points here. I want to make this clear. I am asking you for the answers.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by lady_bug87

If I were you I would make the changes you want to make to the enclosure first, then once its as optimal as s it can be, feed it

Done it, see my new thread

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by mikoh4792

What is wrong with you? Your bitterness towards me is clouding your judgement.
Yes, it is true that at first I thought snakes needed a recovery period. However, I've come to terms with the fact that that proposition may be untrue.

Again, you are judging this the wrong way. I am not going after your language. I just told you.... I MEAN NO OFFENSE. I was curious to know because I really couldn't understand what the first few sentences of your post meant. They just don't make sense in the English language. It could have been a typo, English may not be your first language. How am I supposed to know unless I address this issue? This is exactly what I mean. You miss certain parts of my post and don't understand where I am coming from.

The point of this thread, if you read the op you will realize, is for me to ask you guys whether or not these rumors/consensuses are true or not. I am not advocating any points here. I want to make this clear. I am asking you for the answers.

As I said, if you read the following sentence it goes together about what you said in a previous thread. Nothing to do with my language abilities and I never take offense.

Nothing to do with bitterness or judging you. I'd treat everyone this way. It's a long history here.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

As I said, if you read the following sentence it goes together about what you said in a previous thread. Nothing to do with my language abilities and I never take offense.

Nothing to do with bitterness or judging you. I'd treat everyone this way. It's a long history here.

Okay well I was just clarifying that I wasn't trying to offend you because to be honest, it seemed me that you were taking things the wrong way. Must be an internet thing. It's hard to emotionally communicate through typing.

[marvelfreak]

Originally Posted by mikoh4792

Okay well I was just clarifying that I wasn't trying to offend you because to be honest, it seemed me that you were taking things the wrong way. Must be an internet thing. It's hard to emotionally communicate through typing.

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Sorry just had to. Lol

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by marvelfreak

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Sorry just had to. Lol

I lol'ed

Post is too short, need atleast 10 characters