Pittbull ban passed, quesiton for existing owners - Page 7

Shad0w · 03-04-05, 10:09 AM

Hahahaha,

Hey Im all for banning small dogs that do nothing other than bark outside all day long

Shad0w · 03-04-05, 10:19 AM

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"Big snakes aren't far behind Ontario folks. I give it, one maybe two "bad" press stories before snakes are in the limelight.

Marisa"

Hey Marisa,

That brings up a good point...
I dont think 1/2 the people that buy large constrictors like Retic's, afrocks and conda's know what they are really getting into when they buy that 14 inch baby snake... maybe it wouldnt be such a bad thing to control them? (Shudder) Look at most of the snake rescues, most cases involve large constrictors.... Ah... just a side point

I mean cummon... What would you rather keep? A 14 foot burm that is a baby.. or a 4 foot ATB that wants to rip yer face off

marisa · 03-04-05, 01:56 PM

It might not SOUND like a bad idea because people don't know what they are getting into...but it IS a bad idea for us herpers.

Once they can easily get people to agree the larger snakes should be banned, they will make ridiculous uneducated bans just like this one which include other harmless snakes.

I mean look at Canada now, all because of fear there is a province where you cannot even own a simple BCI, Dumerils or other boas because of the larger snakes. It was easier to blanket them all out instead of taking them time and simply banning a couple species.

Once they find they can easily ban whatever they wish, things WE like are next. And the path is paved for more uneducated, non-thought out bans.

Marisa

Shad0w · 03-04-05, 02:10 PM

Heh... hence my shudders

I guess my sarcastic tone in the post didnt get through

marisa · 03-04-05, 02:14 PM

It did. I just like to make sure that people realize not only Pit Bull owners need to watch this case/ban carefully.

I wish more herpers who don't own Pits would be more interested in this and realize that it's simply making it easier for a ban on other animals.

Marisa

havenbounce · 03-04-05, 04:37 PM

In Ottawa large snakes are already banned. The largest size constrictors allowed is 7 feet and non constrictors is 9 feet. Plus there's all kinds of spiders and insects that are not allowed.
Ginnette

darkscale · 03-04-05, 05:21 PM

i belive in ottawa the size limit on boids is 2 meters
3 on colubrids and any colubrid that has a devernoys gland ie westerns hognose are ilegal here

C.ADAMANTEUS · 03-04-05, 06:05 PM

Well I dont, know were a lil off topic, but this is GOOD read for me.
I was thinking of a relocation to Ottowa.
I left California cuz they wanted to take my guns that I had a licence for cuz they were "Assault" rifles. I moved.
I wont give up my BCC either, so....New Plans in the making

Rick

havenbounce · 03-04-05, 06:21 PM

Yes that's about it. I was trying to convert and round off in my head. Some are stupid like the no marsupials...so you can't even sell a sugarglider here...all because it has a pocket!
When they joined all the different cities into one big city they had to do new bylaws and 2 of the bylaws that they wanted to add (but didn't because they are soooo stupid) was: when walking a dog the max length of leash would have been 6 feet (no more flexi leads) and the other stupid law they tried to pass (ready for this one...) was if your dog ever peed on someone that they would have had to wear a sign warning people while in public...!
Ginnette

havenbounce · 03-04-05, 06:32 PM

The law is only about 2 years old so they have the "grandfather" clause...but because you already own it so you wouldn't have to give it up. You just can't buy them in stores. It's the stores that they are looking for. I just got mine a month ago and I'm not worried about it. The guy 2 houses down from me has a boa that's about 16 feet long and bylaw don't him that as long as it didn't get loose there's nothing to worry about it...
You want to leave CA to move to Ottawa? Are you crazy? It's freezing here! There's snow here! And more snow and than it snows! (lol)
Ginnette

mykee · 03-04-05, 06:48 PM

Since we're here to clear up misconceptions, let's get this ridiculous one out of the way:
" Goldens and labs are #1 on the bite list".
Yes, this is true, but only because close to HALF of all dogs registered in North America are goldens and labs. Of course you're going to see more G&L bites since they make up almost 50% of dog ownership. How many golden and lab "attacks" rip kids and other dogs faces off in an attack though?!.....

Toshi · 03-04-05, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by DataRipper
all people need to do is ship some of the jap fighing dogs they can kill a pit bull and no one would ever know what it is.. it wouldent help baning a breed..

Oh...I think that I might recognize them ..LOL.

BISHAMON · 03-04-05, 06:58 PM

I seen that dog in the picture l some place else,sweet looking dog but the guy beside him has to go,lol,I only have 5-6 wks left before I get my new puppy finally.

sleddergirl · 03-04-05, 08:07 PM

Mykee, I don't want to go into a "who's breed is better" with you. Obviously you love your labs and I love my pits. I certainly am not putting down your breed, but for some reason, you feel the need to point out how much "better" labs are than pits, every time this topic comes up.
Honestly, if you feel the ban will never affect you as a dog owner, then I guess you don't have to worry about it.

havenbounce · 03-04-05, 08:30 PM

More people might have own labs and goldens but the point was really ment to say any dog could bite. Labs and goldens were bred to be "happy and friendly" dogs. (labs are # 5 in how popular and goldens are #1) They were not bred to bite and attack so it is strange that they rank so high up in dog bites needing medical care. As for hearing about labs and goldens attacking kids and other dog...it happens all the time but the media chooses not to report it because there not pitbulls. I saw with my very own eyes a labX rip a toy poodle to shreds for no reason whatsoever! It was the most shocking thing I ever saw.
As for proof to back up what I have to say about the media...lets see how many people here heard about the dog attack that happened on Feb 20/05...before I had posted about it.
It was reported in ONE newspaper only!! The one of the Airedale Terrier that was running loose and attacked Java a service dog. The owner of Java saw the Airedale running at them so she put Java in a down position and the Airedale attacked Java anyways. Java than rolled over onto her back (the most docile position a dog could be in) and the Airedale ripped open her belly with his teeth. The as@*%^% that owned the Airedale didn't do a thing the whole time this was going on. Java entire belly was ripped open and blood was all over the place and all the owner could say was he thought they were playing, he than picked up his dog ran to his truck and took off leaving poor Java and her owner behind in a parking lot!! Java was in surgery for more than 10 hours and I still don't know if she lost her puppies. (she was trained to predict when her person was going to have a seizure. They had spend almost $20 thousand dollars training Java and had bred her to see if she would pass on her talent! When the media was contacted to see why they would right or report the story almost all of them said because it wasn't a pitbull!!! What kind of crap is that??? The only one that I'm aware of who reported it was Pulse 24 but it was 3 days after it happened.
Or about the Rottweiler and collie that killed a 3 yr old in his very own home last Dec in Maple Ridge. Did we hear about that? No. Why? Wrong type of breed, nobody wants to hear about a "killer collie"
"Dog bites occur for a number of specific and often predictable reasons. Responsible dog ownership has never been one of them" (goodpooch.com)
Ginnette