Anyone here have experience with dwarf boa regurgitation??

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I can only make presumptions of your enclosure based on the information given. That's just baiting for you to say that since you're the only one who can give it.

I see only one thermometer in your pics from the first page. It's a 12x12. Something is obviously wrong and you're just saying "this is what it is so I'm not wrong" but yet your snake has proven otherwise.

I am so curious about this vet because you say everything is in working order so it MUST be a "lingering" affect from the breeder.It isn't heating/cooling, it isn't stress from handling, it isn't stress from insecurity. Which means it has to be something wrong with the snake. That seems to be your point, no? If that's true then you'd be taking it to a vet to get it properly examined for everything.

I never said things must be, I did however say things may be. I am open to possibilities and going to a vet may help me eliminate some of them.

You can not see the whole enclosure. However I assure you there were four. 2 accurites in the bottom and 2 flukers near the top. With a thermostat for the basking area. I keep many measuring tools for all of my animals.
In my new thread you can only see 2 zoo med thermometers in the new setup. Guess how many more there are?

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by mikoh4792

I never said things must be, I did however say things may be. I am open to possibilities and going to a vet may help me eliminate some of them.

You can not see the whole enclosure. However I assure you there were four. 2 accurites in the bottom and 2 flukers near the top. With a thermostat for the basking area. I keep many measuring tools for all of my animals.
In my new thread you can only see 2 zoo med thermometers in the new setup. Guess how many more there are?

I don't really care anymore, I'm already right.

Personally, I'd only go to the vet if it continues.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by lady_bug87

Aaron makes a really good point. Here is picture of my green tree python. Note the difference between her and your BCI

I forgot to ask you, what are you using to heat your GTP? and what type of enclosure is she in?(Rack,Plastic?)

[MH4C]

You said she's hiding out during the day, in hides which are 75-80F? This seems a bit low for digestion, certainly a useable temp for any BCI, but if she's accepting cold 'ground hides' or warm perches it should make you think . Providing her with more ground heat (UTH) on about 1/3 to 1/2 of the surface of your tub will probably give her the temps she needs to properly digest her food without her having to 'sit in the open' while digesting, which she probably isn't doing .

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by MH4C

You said she's hiding out during the day, in hides which are 75-80F? This seems a bit low for digestion, certainly a useable temp for any BCI, but if she's accepting cold 'ground hides' or warm perches it should make you think . Providing her with more ground heat (UTH) on about 1/3 to 1/2 of the surface of your tub will probably give her the temps she needs to properly digest her food without her having to 'sit in the open' while digesting, which she probably isn't doing .

If you read my new thread, you will see that I have given her a terrestrial setup with a heat mat. Right now she is in her warm hide.

Yes, I did say that she basks at night, however, I did not say that she was hiding out during the day. Please do not put words in my mouth.

Also, it only get to about 75F during the night in the cool side which she is not in at night. At night she'd be basking at 90F. I mentioned it was around 75-80 depending on time of day. So during the day when she decides to cool down she would be around 80F more or less.

[lady_bug87]

Originally Posted by mikoh4792

I forgot to ask you, what are you using to heat your GTP? and what type of enclosure is she in?(Rack,Plastic?)

With her I use bulbs and in the colder months I supplement with a heat pad if necessary.

[KORBIN5895]

The reason your setup didn't work is because the fake plants were blocking all of the heat. If you would've added additional heat half way down you would've been fine.

This thread was ridiculous on both sides. It was a serious waste of my time.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

The reason your setup didn't work is because the fake plants were blocking all of the heat. If you would've added additional heat half way down you would've been fine.

This thread was ridiculous on both sides. It was a serious waste of my time.

Good thing your time isn't worth anything.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

The reason your setup didn't work is because the fake plants were blocking all of the heat. If you would've added additional heat half way down you would've been fine.

This thread was ridiculous on both sides. It was a serious waste of my time.

Do you know this for sure? I don't think so. Also how much heat do you want to go to the bottom? If the thermal gradient is top to bottom than it's a good thing if something is blocking heat from going down. During the day it can get to 82F down there. Any higher and it isn't really a cool side anymore is it?

And we don't owe you any time. No one forced you to read.

[KORBIN5895]

@Aaron

Obviously my time is worth more than yours as I'm not the one that spent the last two days arguing with the noob.

Originally Posted by mikoh4792

Do you know this for sure? I don't think so. Also how much heat do you want to go to the bottom? If the thermal gradient is top to bottom than it's a good thing if something is blocking heat from going down. During the day it can get to 82F down there. Any higher and it isn't really a cool side anymore is it?

And we don't owe you any time. No one forced you to read.

Okay Mikoh let me keep this real simple so you can understand. If it is 100°f outside in the sun and you stand in shade what happens?

Now I can tell this is happening from two things; first is your picture and second is personal experience.

I currently have a setup like that and I have used it before with another of my boas. The first time around I couldn't get it to work properly and my snake regurged for five weeks straight.

I also will mention that it probably isn't parasites. Also all of those regurgitation have probably jacked it's throat right up so I think you should get off you complacent butt and get it to the vet.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

@Aaron

Obviously my time is worth more than yours as I'm not the one that spent the last two days arguing with the noob.

At least he takes the time to explain things instead of leaving vague statements and using personal life as some excuse to not contribute.

Okay Mikoh let me keep this real simple so you can understand. If it is 100°f outside in the sun and you stand in shade what happens?

What is your point? And why are you comparing humans to snakes?

Now I can tell this is happening from two things; first is your picture and second is personal experience.

I currently have a setup like that and I have used it before with another of my boas. The first time around I couldn't get it to work properly and my snake regurged for five weeks straight.

Sounds reasonable. However what doesn't work for someone may work for someone else when used differently. I'll never get to find that out since I have already taken the advice of the posters here and moved it to a terrestrial type setup with belly heat.

I also will mention that it probably isn't parasites. Also all of those regurgitation have probably jacked it's throat right up so I think you should get off you complacent butt and get it to the vet.

Judgmental are we?

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by mikoh4792

At least he takes the time to explain things instead of leaving vague statements and using personal life as some excuse to not contribute.


What is your point? And why are you comparing humans to snakes?



Sounds reasonable. However what doesn't work for someone may work for someone else when used differently. I'll never get to find that out since I have already taken the advice of the posters here and moved it to a terrestrial type setup with belly heat.



Judgmental are we?

Listen up pal. I can say whatever I please to Aaron because he is a tool.

Secondly I have been busy with a real life so my time is precious. I don't have time to waste holding your little hand to walk you through what you can't figure out.

I plainly stated why your setup did not work and what the issue is. Heck I even used an example that was scientifically correct and east enough for even Aaron to understand.... yet you missed it. My shade example applies to anything because no matter what you do the shade will block the radiant heat from the sun whether it is a human, a snake or a rock.

Maybe you missed it but I am currently house a boa in a 2'x2'x2' successfully. That means I am making the same type of setup work for me even though you were incapable of doing it. That speaks about our respective experience levels now doesn't it?

Finally you have argued with everyone on here about your snakes problem. You claim it is a problem with the snake so go get a vet to fix it or it may die. Do you understand? Good now sit down and learn a bit before continuing to make a fool of yourself.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Listen up pal. I can say whatever I please to Aaron because he is a tool.

Secondly I have been busy with a real life so my time is precious. I don't have time to waste holding your little hand to walk you through what you can't figure out.

I plainly stated why your setup did not work and what the issue is. Heck I even used an example that was scientifically correct and east enough for even Aaron to understand.... yet you missed it. My shade example applies to anything because no matter what you do the shade will block the radiant heat from the sun whether it is a human, a snake or a rock.

Maybe you missed it but I am currently house a boa in a 2'x2'x2' successfully. That means I am making the same type of setup work for me even though you were incapable of doing it. That speaks about our respective experience levels now doesn't it?

Finally you have argued with everyone on here about your snakes problem. You claim it is a problem with the snake so go get a vet to fix it or it may die. Do you understand? Good now sit down and learn a bit before continuing to make a fool of yourself.

Lol "argument is over cause I say it's over!"

What do you mean by busy with real life? Isn't me learning on forums a part of real life?

I don't know why you said anything about the shade. It has nothing to do with this argument. Either that or you are not very articulate.

Also, it takes less time to actually just help me instead of writing up rants and bashings like you do. I think this forum is a way for you to vent the stress you get from "real life". I understand.

Edit: You said the plants were blocking the heat. Untrue. I am using a compact hood which extends across the whole length of the enclosure. If you actually took the time to read some of these posts you would know that temperatures differ between the top back and top front of the terrarium. The plants only take up a little space of the basking area. There are open spaces and secure spaces provided by the plants. Maybe you shouldn't even argue here if you are so busy with your real life, you only take time to voice your opinions and not listen to both sides of the argument.

Also 2x2x2 is not the same as 12x12x18. It isn't even the same type of setup. You know how? Yours worked, mine didn't. If you used the same setup yours wouldn't have worked either. Please go ralph.jpeg.

EDIT: I haven't argued with everyone on here. And I actually have taken the advice from some of the people that I have argued with. This is because they convinced me through arguing, not name calling, bashing, condescending...etc. Go vent your stress somewhere else "pal". This isn't the place for it.

EDIT: Also could you stop telling us how busy you are? As my posts were getting old to you, your posts are getting annoying to me. No one cares how busy you are. You are busy and you are using the little time you have to write mean things to people. This is how I know you're here to vent, not to help. I can learn about snakes from you, you can learn about manners from me.

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by mikoh4792

Lol "argument is over cause I say it's over!"

What do you mean by busy with real life? Isn't me learning on forums a part of real life?

I don't know why you said anything about the shade. It has nothing to do with this argument. Either that or you are not very articulate.

Also, it takes less time to actually just help me instead of writing up rants and bashings like you do. I think this forum is a way for you to vent the stress you get from "real life". I understand.

Edit: You said the plants were blocking the heat. Untrue. I am using a compact hood which extends across the whole length of the enclosure. If you actually took the time to read some of these posts you would know that temperatures differ between the top back and top front of the terrarium. The plants only take up a little space of the basking area. There are open spaces and secure spaces provided by the plants. Maybe you shouldn't even argue here if you are so busy with your real life, you only take time to voice your opinions and not listen to both sides of the argument.

Also 2x2x2 is not the same as 12x12x18. It isn't even the same type of setup. You know how? Yours worked, mine didn't. If you used the same setup yours wouldn't have worked either. Please go ralph.jpeg.

EDIT: I haven't argued with everyone on here. And I actually have taken the advice from some of the people that I have argued with. This is because they convinced me through arguing, not name calling, bashing, condescending...etc. Go vent your stress somewhere else "pal". This isn't the place for it.

EDIT: Also could you stop telling us how busy you are? As my posts were getting old to you, your posts are getting annoying to me. No one cares how busy you are. You are busy and you are using the little time you have to write mean things to people. This is how I know you're here to vent, not to help. I can learn about snakes from you, you can learn about manners from me.

What type of bulbs does a compact hood use?

Your learning curve has nothing to do with my life so it doesn't matter what you do in rl.

The shade analogy is directly aimed at the fact that I can see the red light on top of your leaves. I was pulling for you as I personally know a semi arboreal set up is fine for a boa but you wanted proved wrong so I told you why it wasn't working.

I used the same setup but on a larger scale.

As for listening to both sides I did. Aaron was right that something was wrong but didn't have an exact answer. Yours had no real facts, knowledge or experience backing it up but it definitely wasn't your fault.

[lady_bug87]

Wow Kevin, you really showed us how smart you are.

Thanks for showing all us peons who the cōck of the walk is...