Littlefoot & Cera (New video & pictures) 2013! - Page 54

nepoez · 03-25-13, 12:09 AM

Hi! Infernalis!

It's me again. I have read many of your posts and I have seen your stand on feeding rodents as staple being fine as long as your monitor is well supported. But I read some of your other posts saying you should just feed insects because of their natural diet in the wild. So I'm thinking your stand has shifted through time. Could you please tell me your current stand on sav diet regarding rodents and also what made your views change etc? Thx!

infernalis · 03-26-13, 11:21 AM

Yes, my stance has shifted to pro-rodent.

nepoez · 03-26-13, 03:26 PM

Hi Infernalis! Sorry if this is not the right spot to post. But I read a post you made somewhere that your savs never drink water and never soak because they get all moisture they need from the food, and retain them via the humid environment.

Does this mean I should not need to have a water bowl? Also if I have a water bowl and they do drink from it, and they also do like to go in and swirl around for a minute or two each day, does that mean my environment is too dry? They don't soak in there all days, just once a day for a minute or 2, and they usually roam around looking for food.

infernalis · 03-26-13, 03:52 PM

I still use a water bowl, even if they do trash it.

infernalis · 03-27-13, 02:50 PM

RyanReptile · 03-27-13, 04:02 PM

Their so big! The pictures don't do them justice

murrindindi · 03-27-13, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nepoez

Hi Infernalis! Sorry if this is not the right spot to post. But I read a post you made somewhere that your savs never drink water and never soak because they get all moisture they need from the food, and retain them via the humid environment.

Does this mean I should not need to have a water bowl? Also if I have a water bowl and they do drink from it, and they also do like to go in and swirl around for a minute or two each day, does that mean my environment is too dry? They don't soak in there all days, just once a day for a minute or 2, and they usually roam around looking for food.

Hi, no, it doesn`t mean your husbandry is wrong if you see your monitor take a drink or bathe in the water (or "perfect" if you don`t), though they may get most of their moisture from their foods, not necessarily all of it. They lose moisture throughout the day just moving around the enclosure (or basking).
Most Varanids "like" to swim or at least sit in water at times, and that isn`t just because they are dehydrated. Obviously if the animal is frequently taking drinks, and stays in the water container for long periods there may be something wrong with the conditions.
I don`t believe Wayne said his monitors never drink or bathe, just that he hadn`t actually seen them drinking, which obviously doesn`t mean they haven`t (unless he sits and watches them 24/7)!?
You must ALWAYS provide clean drinking water. They often defaecate in the water container, too.

Donnie · 03-27-13, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by infernalis

I love watching them feed, there was almost a lady and the tramp moment with one of the worms

infernalis · 04-01-13, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by murrindindi

Hi, no, it doesn`t mean your husbandry is wrong if you see your monitor take a drink or bathe in the water (or "perfect" if you don`t), though they may get most of their moisture from their foods, not necessarily all of it. They lose moisture throughout the day just moving around the enclosure (or basking).
Most Varanids "like" to swim or at least sit in water at times, and that isn`t just because they are dehydrated. Obviously if the animal is frequently taking drinks, and stays in the water container for long periods there may be something wrong with the conditions.
I don`t believe Wayne said his monitors never drink or bathe, just that he hadn`t actually seen them drinking, which obviously doesn`t mean they haven`t (unless he sits and watches them 24/7)!?
You must ALWAYS provide clean drinking water. They often defaecate in the water container, too.

Stefan is certainly right, I would never advocate anyone omitting the water bowl.

Even if they do just muddy it up, I see then roll in it and they do seem to enjoy the mud (Must be it resembles rainy season?) so I will always keep the water dish of some sort, need a bigger pan soon.

nepoez · 04-01-13, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by infernalis

Stefan is certainly right, I would never advocate anyone omitting the water bowl.

Even if they do just muddy it up, I see then roll in it and they do seem to enjoy the mud (Must be it resembles rainy season?) so I will always keep the water dish of some sort, need a bigger pan soon.

Yeah my guys seem to like to go in the water after coming out of the burrow to wash off the dirt and rub the dirt off. One of them is starting to stay in there longer than usual.. I'll have to observe a few more days... my humidity seems in check(actually went up quite a bit(mid 60% up to mid 70%) after replacing MVB with 3x50watt halogens, plus turning off ceramic emmiter during day time) So will see if the water soaking goes down,.

infernalis · 04-09-13, 03:42 PM

bowdenmx · 04-09-13, 04:34 PM

love that last pic. love that face.

Pirarucu · 04-09-13, 06:11 PM

More please!

smy_749 · 04-09-13, 06:32 PM

rarely have I seen a 'skinny' savannah. I thought they only came in fat or bloated and it just seemed like an ugly disproportional species. This is a much better looking animal, hard to explain it lol

infernalis · 04-09-13, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by smy_749

rarely have I seen a 'skinny' savannah. I thought they only came in fat or bloated and it just seemed like an ugly disproportional species. This is a much better looking animal, hard to explain it lol

Not hard to explain at all. I know exactly what you mean.