Columbia rainbow - Page 4

GyGbeetle · 03-02-17, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Scubadiver59

Rather obvious you can't put the snakes in there...you'd have to put them in something else, like a large container, i.e. rubbermaid, and then fog the old viv. With the rubbermaid container there are fewer nooks and crannies for the mites to hide while you treat the snake and it's easily disinfected; and, a rubbermaid container is a heck of a light lighter than any glass or PVC viv. In fact, you could even dispose of it due to the low cost when your done.

Just trying to stimulate an alternative idea or two to your problem, not kill your pets!

They're my babies! Not pets! hahaha. It was a good thought; it's something that I was bouncing around some time ago as well. But I spoke with some folks with more experience, and they said PAM is my best option. And then here, Nix was the alternative

SnoopySnake · 03-02-17, 08:32 PM

I would keep up with the NIX every 4-5 days and keep treating with PAM as directed. When I was treating for mites I would spray the snakes down with the NIX, just not enough for then to be able to drink any. It is weird that the problem is still there...

GyGbeetle · 03-02-17, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SnoopySnake

I would keep up with the NIX every 4-5 days and keep treating with PAM as directed. When I was treating for mites I would spray the snakes down with the NIX, just not enough for then to be able to drink any. It is weird that the problem is still there...

Weird is an understatement.

Well I spoke with the owner of "our" pet shop and the CRB is mine. He's gonna hang on to her while we eradicate the mites. He's lending us bins and mentoring us on what to do to get rid of them. I'm excited. Not about the mites, and snake #13. I need to come up with an ultra awesome name that isn't Princess Unicorn or Queen Fluffypants. I don't know why no one likes those names

afsgr88 · 03-02-17, 11:43 PM

Queen Fluffypants ftw! xD

GyGbeetle · 03-03-17, 07:11 AM

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Queen Fluffypants ftw! xD

My husband said absolutely not, under any circumstance.

but it's such a cute name. The kids all said they'd disown me. I think everyone is still upset about the Edward and Bella names (Twilight movies)

afsgr88 · 03-03-17, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GyGbeetle

My husband said absolutely not, under any circumstance.

but it's such a cute name. The kids all said they'd disown me. I think everyone is still upset about the Edward and Bella names (Twilight movies)

Well....I will agree with everyone when it comes to those Twilight movies...

But I love Queen Fluffypants, so I am rooting for that

SnoopySnake · 03-03-17, 09:22 AM

Glad they will hold onto it for you

hope your mite problem is sorted soon. As far as names go....can't really help you there lol. I have a snake named Albert and my geckos are new gecko, little gecko and big gecko lol

GyGbeetle · 03-03-17, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SnoopySnake

Glad they will hold onto it for you

hope your mite problem is sorted soon. As far as names go....can't really help you there lol. I have a snake named Albert and my geckos are new gecko, little gecko and big gecko lol

Hahahaha! That's cute though. "And this is New Snake. This is Jerk Snake. She over there is Psycho Snake, aka Cray Cray"

**Aaron_S** · 03-03-17, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GyGbeetle

Please don't laugh at my horrible picture taking, and the horrible tank setup. They are all on plastic bins with the tops left off, since we have UTH, and found if we sat the tanks on plastic bins with the lids on, the heating element overheated.

So this tank typically has a plastic hide, and a plastic water bowl, and that's pretty much it. We've been wanting to change up EVERYONE'S setup since Christmas, but with mites, we're not doing anything. So they have been on paper towels now since January. It's all glass, with the mesh tops. Standard aquarium type tank. It came with our first snake, Fang. Fang is in an 80 gallon tank now, and we switched the baby boa (almost a year old now) to this tank.

There was paper on half of the lid, to help insulate humidity until we transitioned to new tanks (we're looking at animal plastics to convert over the next year), which I pulled off last night, and sprayed the heck out of everything with Nix.

Those plastic bins get treated along with the tanks. It's a 2-3 hour process to do the entire room and all the snakes, but it definitely gets done.

It looks like there's a towel in the tank to the left. Do you wash/treat those as well?

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Originally Posted by GyGbeetle

This is also my thought. Provent-a-mite is hella strong, and toxic to snakes. We are going to blast the tank this weekend and treat the snakes with JurassiMite. PAM should only be used every 2 weeks, which is what we're going to do. And pray. Lots and lots of prayer

PAM and Nix have the same active ingredient (Permethrin). One isn't stronger than the other unless you're using more of the same active ingredient (Which will likely cause toxicity issues in your animals). There's a reason why nix gets diluted.

Your tanks look fine, your bins underneath look fine and easy to spray. I am at a loss on why you still have mites.

I'd spray my animals with nix, the enclosures including the clean paper towel, everything and leave it. I never wipe anything down or wipe it off. I replace the water dishes 24 hours later (after washing them in the sink/drying. I use stainless steel bowls.)

I then would do it again 7 days later and then again 7 days after that. It should have killed everything at that point.

GyGbeetle · 03-03-17, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

It looks like there's a towel in the tank to the left. Do you wash/treat those as well?

PAM and Nix have the same active ingredient (Permethrin). One isn't stronger than the other unless you're using more of the same active ingredient (Which will likely cause toxicity issues in your animals). There's a reason why nix gets diluted.

Your tanks look fine, your bins underneath look fine and easy to spray. I am at a loss on why you still have mites.

I'd spray my animals with nix, the enclosures including the clean paper towel, everything and leave it. I never wipe anything down or wipe it off. I replace the water dishes 24 hours later (after washing them in the sink/drying. I use stainless steel bowls.)

I then would do it again 7 days later and then again 7 days after that. It should have killed everything at that point.

The towel gets cleaned about every 2 days. 2 of our snakes had some issues with paper towels (they tore the towels to shreds and refused to sit on top of it).

We have NOT been treating the paper towels, though. So we will be doing that moving forward. But everything else; I just don't get it.

And we will only see ONE bug every 2-3 weeks. ONE. Like what the hell Mother Nature? Only 1 in only 1 tank. We check several times daily in ALL tanks and see no mites. And just out of randomness one will drop out of thin air into this one tank. Just when we think we've picked it. It's like they are purposefully messing with us. "Oh, you thought you were done? Hahahaha just kidding!!!"

**Aaron_S** · 03-03-17, 11:42 AM

Are you sure that 1 mite is a snake mite at that time then?

GyGbeetle · 03-03-17, 11:50 AM

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Are you sure that 1 mite is a snake mite at that time then?

No. But I'm not an entomologist, and have no way of "seeing" these things, even with a magnifying glass. What else could they be? They smoosh like mites.

SnoopySnake · 03-03-17, 12:31 PM

Can you try to get photos next time you see one? It seems really odd that there would only be one or two every so often, doesn't make much sense.

SnoopySnake · 03-03-17, 12:55 PM

Can you check all of the other snakes? Check for lifted scales ect. They may be really hard to see in the retics and burm if they're a good size, even the boas too.

GyGbeetle · 03-03-17, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SnoopySnake

Can you check all of the other snakes? Check for lifted scales ect. They may be really hard to see in the retics and burm if they're a good size, even the boas too.

My husband checks every day. No lifted scales. The boas are hard because they have freckles. But he knows how to look for those lifted scales, and we check the vents and eyes/nose. We have an albino burm and albino lavendar retic, so those are easy to see. And the paper towels. We've had them on paper towels for nearly 2 months. Nothing in the water, nothing on the towels. Nothing. I will do my best to take a pic if we see one again. My picture taking skills suck. Admitedly we found 2 last time; one mysteriously showed up in the affected tank, and another in the water while soaking her.

So here's another thing. We soaked her again last night. She pooped and urated in the water, we cleaned it all out, soaked her in fresh water, and found a bug. In the water. With her. It was not a mite. I asked my husband if he's sure what he saw was a mite. The one he found in the water the other day looked different than what was in the tank; it had a white swirly pattern on its back.

I do feel like Mother Nature is messing with me