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03-02-17, 01:16 PM
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Re: Columbia rainbow
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Originally Posted by Skipper7
I have no experience with mites or snakes really, so take my advice for what its worth.
It seems to me like Nix just isn't strong enough to do the job for you. Perhaps you should try something else? Something stronger? Even if just something stronger in the room or around the tanks.
I know F10 has a mite product. I don't know much about it, but their products are generally good.
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This is also my thought. Provent-a-mite is hella strong, and toxic to snakes. We are going to blast the tank this weekend and treat the snakes with JurassiMite. PAM should only be used every 2 weeks, which is what we're going to do. And pray. Lots and lots of prayer
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2.5 BCIs, 1.1 BCAs, 1.1 tiger retics, 0.1 Burm, 0.1 Woma, 0.1 Colombian rainbow boa
But if anyone asks, I only have 1. The rest just showed up for the house party.
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03-03-17, 11:14 AM
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Re: Columbia rainbow
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Originally Posted by GyGbeetle
Please don't laugh at my horrible picture taking, and the horrible tank setup. They are all on plastic bins with the tops left off, since we have UTH, and found if we sat the tanks on plastic bins with the lids on, the heating element overheated.
So this tank typically has a plastic hide, and a plastic water bowl, and that's pretty much it. We've been wanting to change up EVERYONE'S setup since Christmas, but with mites, we're not doing anything. So they have been on paper towels now since January. It's all glass, with the mesh tops. Standard aquarium type tank. It came with our first snake, Fang. Fang is in an 80 gallon tank now, and we switched the baby boa (almost a year old now) to this tank.
There was paper on half of the lid, to help insulate humidity until we transitioned to new tanks (we're looking at animal plastics to convert over the next year), which I pulled off last night, and sprayed the heck out of everything with Nix.
Those plastic bins get treated along with the tanks. It's a 2-3 hour process to do the entire room and all the snakes, but it definitely gets done.
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It looks like there's a towel in the tank to the left. Do you wash/treat those as well?
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Originally Posted by GyGbeetle
This is also my thought. Provent-a-mite is hella strong, and toxic to snakes. We are going to blast the tank this weekend and treat the snakes with JurassiMite. PAM should only be used every 2 weeks, which is what we're going to do. And pray. Lots and lots of prayer
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PAM and Nix have the same active ingredient (Permethrin). One isn't stronger than the other unless you're using more of the same active ingredient (Which will likely cause toxicity issues in your animals). There's a reason why nix gets diluted.
Your tanks look fine, your bins underneath look fine and easy to spray. I am at a loss on why you still have mites.
I'd spray my animals with nix, the enclosures including the clean paper towel, everything and leave it. I never wipe anything down or wipe it off. I replace the water dishes 24 hours later (after washing them in the sink/drying. I use stainless steel bowls.)
I then would do it again 7 days later and then again 7 days after that. It should have killed everything at that point.
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03-03-17, 11:22 AM
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Re: Columbia rainbow
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Originally Posted by Aaron_S
It looks like there's a towel in the tank to the left. Do you wash/treat those as well?
PAM and Nix have the same active ingredient (Permethrin). One isn't stronger than the other unless you're using more of the same active ingredient (Which will likely cause toxicity issues in your animals). There's a reason why nix gets diluted.
Your tanks look fine, your bins underneath look fine and easy to spray. I am at a loss on why you still have mites.
I'd spray my animals with nix, the enclosures including the clean paper towel, everything and leave it. I never wipe anything down or wipe it off. I replace the water dishes 24 hours later (after washing them in the sink/drying. I use stainless steel bowls.)
I then would do it again 7 days later and then again 7 days after that. It should have killed everything at that point.
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The towel gets cleaned about every 2 days. 2 of our snakes had some issues with paper towels (they tore the towels to shreds and refused to sit on top of it).
We have NOT been treating the paper towels, though. So we will be doing that moving forward. But everything else; I just don't get it.
And we will only see ONE bug every 2-3 weeks. ONE. Like what the hell Mother Nature? Only 1 in only 1 tank. We check several times daily in ALL tanks and see no mites. And just out of randomness one will drop out of thin air into this one tank. Just when we think we've picked it. It's like they are purposefully messing with us. "Oh, you thought you were done? Hahahaha just kidding!!!"
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2.5 BCIs, 1.1 BCAs, 1.1 tiger retics, 0.1 Burm, 0.1 Woma, 0.1 Colombian rainbow boa
But if anyone asks, I only have 1. The rest just showed up for the house party.
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