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Old 01-29-13, 07:40 PM   #1
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?

What's the enclosure material?

$350 for a plug and play 4x2x2 sounds fair....
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Old 01-29-13, 08:28 PM   #2
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?

Question: for something as big as 8x4x4' are you assuming some assembly required after delivery? Something that wouldn't get through most doorways. Since I have zero building experience I would l would love it if there was a high quality option available in the larger sizes. Currently I only have a 6ft Haitian Boa who utilizes every inch of his 5x2x2.5 plastic enclosure, but in the future I would be interested in a slightly larger (not giant) snake and/or medium to large lizard. Given what you see out there currently, a BIG enclosure suitable for a large snake or tegu/monitor that is truly high quality would be worth high hundreds of dollars to someone like me who wants to give maximal space and do it right but workspace/skill to self construct.
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?

Great question!!
Yes it would be shipped needing a bit of assembly.
As far as material it will be a plastic with a wood option in parts.
Also, it will be at the higher end of what has been said so far. But I promise when you guys see it you will totaly understand why the extra cost. This will be more plug and play than anything thus far.Seriously just plug it in and set your temp/humidity ,wait a few hours for it to level out and then add your snake or monitor. Will be available for all reptiles. Options for thermostat and humidity controls, all electronics right on the face of the unit. I am also going to test it thoroughly for bith strength and functionality. I think I am going into buisness.
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?

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Great question!!
Yes it would be shipped needing a bit of assembly.
As far as material it will be a plastic with a wood option in parts.
Also, it will be at the higher end of what has been said so far. But I promise when you guys see it you will totaly understand why the extra cost. This will be more plug and play than anything thus far.Seriously just plug it in and set your temp/humidity ,wait a few hours for it to level out and then add your snake or monitor. Will be available for all reptiles. Options for thermostat and humidity controls, all electronics right on the face of the unit. I am also going to test it thoroughly for bith strength and functionality. I think I am going into buisness.
Thanks everyone for your very valuable input.
If the cage itself had good aesthetic and came with a full set up of heat / humidity management that like you said was on the face of the unit I would pay $300-500.
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?

One thing to keep in mind from a business perspective is that having too many options will cost you money. You will need to keep a certain level of inventory on hand so you can produce these as quickly as possible. So if you offer several different brands of thermostats then you will be sinking a lot of cash into inventory you will have sitting around for awhile. I would recommend touching base with a brand you like and try hammering out a contract so you can get them at wholesale prices.
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Old 01-30-13, 05:59 AM   #6
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?

Ahh a Plastic one.. I would be willing to pay less for. Maybe $150-200 but that is just me.
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Ahh a Plastic one.. I would be willing to pay less for. Maybe $150-200 but that is just me.
Interesting...

It costs more to make plastic than wood due to the moulds that need to be purchased and made every so often.

Plastic also allows for a lighter product as well as something that will last longer than wood. It is a superior product overall.

I think your price point is a little low at $150 but I don't know of any that reach the $500 mark either that I mentioned so it would have to fall somewhere in the middle.
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Ahh a Plastic one.. I would be willing to pay less for. Maybe $150-200 but that is just me.
$150-200 for a complete set up plastic cage? It would cost that much in materials to make a nice wooden cage bare bone.
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Ahh a Plastic one.. I would be willing to pay less for. Maybe $150-200 but that is just me.
No need to insult me here.
Well a descent thermostat,rhp and a basic light would cost more than that so you are a bit off. These aren't some cheap plastic boxes either. These are going to be the best thing available. A basic empty pvc cage costs $150-$200 so how on earth would a full setup only cost that? Your viv you posted is nice but good luck ever finding one like it for sale complete with heat and light for $300 brand new.
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?

If it was delivered assembled and i literally just had to plug it in i would pay an extra £100 - £150 easily
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Old 01-30-13, 10:34 AM   #11
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?

Corey I make my own wooden vivs for less than that. If you know what you are doing and how to find deals its not hard at all. I posted pics of a few simple vivs I made for far less than $200.

Maybe it's just me but I really dislike the look of plastic cages and I would never spend much on them regardless of the quality. Also if I didn't know how to make them myself maybe I would be willing to spend more on a plastic one. I don't know...
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?

I'd be willing to pay within the $400-$500 range but then again, I'd have to see it first.
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?

For the kinds of animals I like display cages for (viperids), I've found that I can put together a very awesome set up for under $200 for a large snake, under $100 for a small snake.

I use PM Herps caging. 16"H x 12"W x 12"D = $65 with screen; 20 x 20 x 24 = $120 . Water bowl = $2-5. Fake vines, decorations, etc = $20-25
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For the kinds of animals I like display cages for (viperids), I've found that I can put together a very awesome set up for under $200 for a large snake, under $100 for a small snake.

I use PM Herps caging. 16"H x 12"W x 12"D = $65 with screen; 20 x 20 x 24 = $120 . Water bowl = $2-5. Fake vines, decorations, etc = $20-25

This comparing apple to appartment buildings. In my first post I clearly said 4x2x2 and with heat ,thermostat,lights,background,decorations ect.
Both you and gungirl have just stated what you build and what it costs but left out all the expensive stuff. Glad you guys can meet your needs for cheap but my question clearly was whay would you pay for the best available viv. If buying the best isn't in your nature that's fine but this thread is not about that. If you have snakes that need their micro climate to be similar to the inside of your home or don't mind misting or manually adjusting settings then this viv will not be for you. Why spend the extra right? But if you want a truly set and forget setup or have tropical snakes but live somewhere very dry or the reverse and live somewhere tropical but have desert reptiles then this is for you. This will be the same jump in quality and functionality as going from an old used fish tank with a hunk of wood on top to a nice pvc viv. It will be expensive but light,functional,complete and inexpensive to maintain plus your snakes will be in perfect conditions all the time and not just for an hour or 2 after misting.
Just trying to keep my thread on topic. Sorry.
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?

Taking into account that you say it would look fantastic and be plug and play, i would assume paying closer to $500 for that size. What would the reliability be like possibly 10-15 yrs from now? Would you be able to offer some peace of mind for somone shelling out a large sum of money?
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