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01-29-13, 04:03 PM
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Morelia Enjoyus Maximus
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what would you be willing to pay?
For the perfect enclosure.
Let say you have an adult BCI. What would you pay for a 4x2x2 complete with built in heat-thermostat, humidity control, background, fake plants and lighting. All you add is substrate, waterbowl hides and of course the snake.
Also this viv would be fully insulated and the best viv available.
So what would you be willing to pay?
I have a figure in mind but don't want to curve any answers.
I see quite a few people on here spending lots of cash and not getting a fool proof setup. I have been drawing up plans for a be all and end all enclosure for my own snakes and the more I figure it all out the more I think I may build 10 of them and see if there is a valid buisness idea BUT would people be willing to pay for "the best" enclosure available? Well I am hoping to find out now before shelling out a ton of cash to get started.
I built a couple vivs this past summer and learned a lot so I researched high end controlled eviroments for industry and have a great design that is unique to anything available now.
So do I start my own buisness?
Your answers please? How much is too much?
Thanks all!
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01-29-13, 04:05 PM
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Non Carborundum Illegitimi
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?
Personally i would expect to pay about £300 ($480)
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01-29-13, 04:05 PM
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?
whatever it takes...... My animals mean more to me than money.
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01-29-13, 04:07 PM
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?
I would want to see it first.
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01-29-13, 04:08 PM
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Formerly Lil_Boa
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?
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Originally Posted by infernalis
whatever it takes...... My animals mean more to me than money.
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kudos to you!
same as wayne, if they need it, i find a way to get it
but if its an actual answer you need, i would say around $400 or so
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01-29-13, 04:09 PM
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?
People are willing to pay for such things, just not really in Canada I find.
The price also depends on what kind of thermostat and humidity control is in the enclosure. What kind of heating and other materials are. Could you give me more information like the material and such?
For me personally, when I owned borneo short-tails I would have considered $200 - $250 for "bare bones" and $300 - $500 for the stuff you've added. Again, depends on the quality. If I'm spending good money on caging then I want it to last and be awesome for a really long time.
You seem to have a solid idea Dan but just remember to keep it super functional. That will always sell enclosures if it functions easily.
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01-29-13, 04:16 PM
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Formerly Lil_Boa
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?
try and think-
how much will my materials cost? $x.xx
how long will they take to make? xx days or weeks
when its all said and done, how much do i need to sell them for, to be able to make them worth my time?
sure you can sell the for say $500, but if it costs you $400 to make, thats $100 profit, but how long does it take to make the cage...
hope this made sence,if not, i will try and clarify, running on 4 hrs sleep, and 10 hrs at school lol.
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01-29-13, 04:18 PM
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Morelia Enjoyus Maximus
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?
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Originally Posted by Aaron_S
People are willing to pay for such things, just not really in Canada I find.
The price also depends on what kind of thermostat and humidity control is in the enclosure. What kind of heating and other materials are. Could you give me more information like the material and such?
For me personally, when I owned borneo short-tails I would have considered $200 - $250 for "bare bones" and $300 - $500 for the stuff you've added. Again, depends on the quality. If I'm spending good money on caging then I want it to last and be awesome for a really long time.
You seem to have a solid idea Dan but just remember to keep it super functional. That will always sell enclosures if it functions easily.
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These will be without a doubt the best thing anyone has made yet. These will make all other viv (even the popular plastic ones I own) look bad both astheticaly and functionally. It would also have a full warranty and be a single plug. Stackable and available up to a 8x4x4 . I have a truly "out of the box" plan. I wish I could elaborate more but my design has to stay mine.
I might even need a patent
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01-29-13, 04:20 PM
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?
Here's my 4x2x16 $220
2 x hides $30 each
1x RHP $120
1x 11" heatape $25
bedding i buy bulk bags 8.0 cu ft $38 ( lasts me atleast a yr )
water bowl $8
2X thermostats $ 220
total $ 691 or very close i may've missed a little GST ! ,that bieng said money really didn't come into it as i researched prior to purchasing the Boa.....no-one was gonna accuse me of putting "the cart before the horse"
to add to this it is by far the best enclosure i have owned ,no covering it with foil and wet towels or bricks.....it's all clean looking ,very easy to maintain but most importantly it's working very well for my Boa regarding heat and the humidity is great aswell ......very impressed !
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01-29-13, 04:21 PM
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?
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Originally Posted by Lankyrob
Personally i would expect to pay about £300 ($480)
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It think this is about the right money maybe a bit more. Over here you are looking about £100 for a 4x2x2 melamine (most common type of viv over here) viv, ceramic bulb £15, guard £12, thermostat between £30 - £130 (depending on the type), plants about £20 - £30 (depends on qty) not sure of the price on humidity systems but I would guess at least £50, lighting £45 (again depending on type). I am sure there is a market for it but it would have to be enough to have the essentials but leave enough for each individual to modify to their own taste.
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01-29-13, 04:23 PM
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Morelia Enjoyus Maximus
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?
Very nice. This is why I want to do 10. I can get my materials for less if I buy that amount.
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01-29-13, 04:28 PM
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?
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Originally Posted by Terranaut
These will be without a doubt the best thing anyone has made yet. These will make all other viv (even the popular plastic ones I own) look bad both astheticaly and functionally. It would also have a full warranty and be a single plug. Stackable and available up to a 8x4x4 . I have a truly "out of the box" plan. I wish I could elaborate more but my design has to stay mine.
I might even need a patent
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Shoot me a PM if you want to discuss it in greater detail. I can give you my number. I honestly have no reason or desire to get into that market. I'd just like to hear about it.
Sounds like a solid plan though. I'd consider the weight though too. Not only for ease of moving while it's my home but for shipping costs as well.
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01-29-13, 04:34 PM
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?
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Originally Posted by Terranaut
Very nice. This is why I want to do 10. I can get my materials for less if I buy that amount.
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buying bedding in bulk can save you a lot from what i've learnt ,for example today i was passing "pisces pet emporium" they had coco-husk bricks ,s/moss , plantation soil all on half price......i bought 4 of each for my Blood i don't need the bedding yet as i make up a brick of each at a time and dry it and store it for future ( just moisten when it's needed ) you'll be suprised what you can save just sneaking around and picking up offers as you see them......money permitting of course
EDIT ,should you decide to go down the road with your design i wish you all the best okay mate
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01-29-13, 06:23 PM
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Diesel the pumpkin killer
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?
We built our 4 x 2 x 2 out of nice oak fully loaded with thermostat and an RHP for under $200... Buying one built I can see $350 ish.
This one is also under $200 when all said and done..
As well as this one.. This one is a 3 x 2 x 3
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01-29-13, 07:40 PM
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Wandering Cricket
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Re: what would you be willing to pay?
What's the enclosure material?
$350 for a plug and play 4x2x2 sounds fair....
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