Borneo Short-tailed python will not eat - Page 2

**Aaron_S** · 10-07-15, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kneff1175

Several sies say the will be way too heavy for UTHs as far as temps thats what I was told by a breeder in the same state as I am. Ill post his site and maybe you two can get the temp thing down. I think I may try to keep uping the temp a degree until I find out what makes her comfortable. His business is El Grande Bloods, and its at Https://www.facebook.com/El-Grande-B...meline/?ref=hl

As suggested, you were told wrong. Many people keep them with UTH's.

As for temps I'll stick to what I know and my experience.

Your link also didn't work.

Kneff1175 · 10-08-15, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kneff1175

Several sies say the will be way too heavy for UTHs as far as temps thats what I was told by a breeder in the same state as I am. Ill post his site and maybe you two can get the temp thing down. I think I may try to keep uping the temp a degree until I find out what makes her comfortable. His business is El Grande Bloods, and its at Https://www.facebook.com/El-Grande-B...meline/?ref=hl

El Grande bloods. I'm sure there aren't very many from Indiana on FB. Not hard.

Kneff1175 · 10-06-15, 08:20 AM

ok yall so I hav her in a tub. Ill put up pics and will yall say if she needs anything else. For the record. I hardly handle her. Just to move her to clean. Ive actually been doing that part well. Everywhere was closed lastnight so I still have her on cypress. The humidity does stay up better. But what about heat. My snake room stays at 81. Her temp this morning was 79.6. What do I do for extra heat? Does she even need it or is 79 good. It will probably raise to 81-83. I cant use a pad with this species. Any more advice?

marvelfreak · 10-06-15, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kneff1175

ok yall so I hav her in a tub. Ill put up pics and will yall say if she needs anything else. For the record. I hardly handle her. Just to move her to clean. Ive actually been doing that part well. Everywhere was closed lastnight so I still have her on cypress. The humidity does stay up better. But what about heat. My snake room stays at 81. Her temp this morning was 79.6. What do I do for extra heat? Does she even need it or is 79 good. It will probably raise to 81-83. I cant use a pad with this species. Any more advice?

Actually that what i use for all of my tubs and totes. UTH (under tank heaters) work just great. Just be sure to use a thermostat to control the temperature.

Kneff1175 · 10-06-15, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by marvelfreak

Actually that what i use for all of my tubs and totes. UTH (under tank heaters) work just great. Just be sure to use a thermostat to control the temperature.

I was told that this species is way too heavy bodied for UTHs.

Kneff1175 · 10-16-15, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kneff1175

ok yall so I hav her in a tub. Ill put up pics and will yall say if she needs anything else. For the record. I hardly handle her. Just to move her to clean. Ive actually been doing that part well. Everywhere was closed lastnight so I still have her on cypress. The humidity does stay up better. But what about heat. My snake room stays at 81. Her temp this morning was 79.6. What do I do for extra heat? Does she even need it or is 79 good. It will probably raise to 81-83. I cant use a pad with this species. Any more advice?

Thanks y'all. She feed tonight. The tub and lower temps seems to have done the tricks. She's definitely a live feeder.

Kneff1175 · 10-06-15, 08:36 AM

One more thing about my BST. What about a water dish that she can get into. I have a large tuperware thing in there now, but I do not think she can get in a soak. I tried a larger one but there was no room. This is the largest tub I had thats not green or black. Can it be a colored tub, or somewhat see through. And the bungee on top in the pic is so she can't open it. Which I doubt is a very good deterrent.

Kneff1175 · 10-06-15, 09:31 PM

OK. But if my temps stay around 80 should I mess with them. Thats with a probe on the cypress right next to her hide. Or just use the pad for emergencies? Lots of people have said they prefer cooler temps but higher humidity. She has a tall hide too. She seems too like it so Im inclined to just really leave it all be for now till she eats a few, or would it be best to get her a more snug hide? She really is way different than a ball or red tailed. I was really unprepared for this on. She was sort of an impulse buy. Once I put my hands on her at the show it was over. But I finally think Ive got things right. Now hopefully she takes care of the rest. On a side note the people I got her from said their male had worked his way in between the top and the tup and it crushed his top ribs of something. Maybe she was overstating because she said he was still alive, anyway I would really like to avoid that, so will she ever acclimate to a tank or will it be a tub her whole life. Either is fine, but having her just for personal reasons I would like to see her. How often is good to handle her, after she starts eating a few times. My red tail and balls seem to do fine with daily handling times of about 30 min. Do they like to be handled less? Do they stress easier. Every article Ive read seems to only say to leave them be for the first few weeks then normal handling. I noticed too that in the tank she was constantly burrowed, but last night and today in the tub shes just kinda hanging out. At least from what I see through the tub. ( Havent taken the top off). Is that good? Maybe shes more secure. This whole thing has taught me to not every snake is keep hot, feed, clean and presto snake keeping. This BST and Rosy Boa have showed me that number one above all is security. Theirs.

**Tsubaki** · 10-07-15, 02:12 PM

I have kept Bloods (Breitensteini / brongersmai) with UTH's in tubs, they did absolutely fine

I gave them a cool spot to burrow, and a warm spot to burrow.. And that (besides feeding time) was the last i ever saw of them.. i think they were part mole...

Kneff1175 · 10-08-15, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsubaki

I have kept Bloods (Breitensteini / brongersmai) with UTH's in tubs, they did absolutely fine

I gave them a cool spot to burrow, and a warm spot to burrow.. And that (besides feeding time) was the last i ever saw of them.. i think they were part mole...

Yeah she burrows like crazy. I put a pad under the tub this morning. So hopefully this will solve the riddle of the non feeding BST.

SnoopySnake · 10-08-15, 11:44 AM

Aaron isn't rude, just blunt. And he gives some pretty good advice. Ignoring it just because you don't like his "tone" could be a big mistake on your part. Why don't you like his advice? Because it goes against what you think you know?

reptiledude987 · 10-08-15, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SnoopySnake

Aaron isn't rude, just blunt. And he gives some pretty good advice. Ignoring it just because you don't like his "tone" could be a big mistake on your part. Why don't you like his advice? Because it goes against what you think you know?

Agreed. Aaron knows his stuff. but he wont sugar coat things he calls it the way he sees it. For those of us who have been on this forum for a while we expect this from him. He is blunt but rarely wrong. Plus when he is wrong about somthing he is humble enough to admit his mistake. In my time here I think Ive seen that maybe twice. However regarding your query here I personally agree 100% with what he has said.

Kneff1175 · 10-09-15, 09:35 AM

her temps are at 86.7 on her digital probe therm. That's on hot during day. Cool side is 83. With a +/- .3 degrees. At night her temps drop to 81. And that is with a 1 degree drop too the cool side of 79. When should I attempt a feeding? Five to seven days? Or a couple of weeks. She's been in the tub since 10/5. However her temps were slowly raised to a top of 86.7. She's been on that temp since yesterday. Should I cover her tub also. I have other snakes in the room so I cannot just isolate her completely.

**Aaron_S** · 10-09-15, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kneff1175

her temps are at 86.7 on her digital probe therm. That's on hot during day. Cool side is 83. With a +/- .3 degrees. At night her temps drop to 81. And that is with a 1 degree drop too the cool side of 79. When should I attempt a feeding? Five to seven days? Or a couple of weeks. She's been in the tub since 10/5. However her temps were slowly raised to a top of 86.7. She's been on that temp since yesterday. Should I cover her tub also. I have other snakes in the room so I cannot just isolate her completely.

1. You should practice quarantine in a separate room. This animal is new, correct? It means if something that we can't visbly see is the reason for the non-feeding then your other animals are subject to it as well. We all wish that not to be the case it's more likely the extreme case here.

2. I always recommend attempting to feed on a 5 or 7 day schedule CONSISTENTLY. Pick one that you prefer and offer the same prey, the same way, at the same intervals. I found this to work best.

3. Does the temps drop at night because of just general drops or are you dropping them with the thermostat? I would recommend to not drop temps yourself. If it's just because the room drops a few degrees then leave it but I'd advise against doing it on your own. There is no need for the drop unless you were planning to breed.