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psychocircus · 02-01-14, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CK SandBoas

I apologize for the name calling.....but with all the legislation that is going on here, even keeping one illegal animal can be detrimental to this hobby....Why is it so difficult to understand the word "illegal".....

I think the best approach would be to warn the OP of the possible consequences of smuggling an animal into his/her state and suggest alternatives.

OP: In my opinion there are kingsnakes and ratsnakes that have patterns fairly similar and equally beautiful as the corns. Are there certain morphs you like? Perhaps we can help out more.

Terranaut · 02-01-14, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by psychocircus

I think the best approach would be to warn the OP of the possible consequences of smuggling an animal into his/her state and suggest alternatives.

OP: In my opinion there are kingsnakes and ratsnakes that have patterns fairly similar and equally beautiful as the corns. Are there certain morphs you like? Perhaps we can help out more.

Unfortunately kings and rats are both on the "do not keep " list for GA

psychocircus · 02-01-14, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Terranaut

Unfortunately kings and rats are both on the "do not keep " list for GA

all of them? even with the variety of species? that's crazy

Terranaut · 02-01-14, 04:52 PM

Interpret the link as you will.

BIGT FROM F.B. · 02-01-14, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CK SandBoas

Unbelievable...... That is the difference between you and me......I am not willing to keep anything that is not legal to keep. I am not willing to put this hobby that i love at risk because of pure selfishness.....All my animals that i keep are legal to keep, if they weren't, i would find new homes for them, because that would be the right thing to do.

Your attitude sucks, pure and simple.....try and start thinking of others before your own wants, jackass....

It's our government that makes bullshit like this illegal in the first place. Look at all of the things that "should be" illegal, but there are too many pussies running this country......And yes, my attitude does suck. I got tired of taking **** from people a long time ago. (My opinion)

**Tsubaki** · 02-01-14, 05:01 PM

I don't even live on the same continent.. However, owning native snakes is not-done here either (Nearly all native animal species are endangered). I personally take offense if people still do, and i will always report offenders if they don't listen to my warnings. It puts the hobby in a bad light, why not stick to legal animals? There are so many beautiful alternatives around! Doing stuff like keeping illegal snakes, plays straight into the hand of people wanting to restrict the hobby. - Even if the law banning them is clearly horse sh*t-

There is much talk of restricting the hobby here as well, banning 'dangerous' snakes like burms and retics. (You can keep the ones you already own, but not get new ones) If they do, i heavily consider moving to Germany. But i would not buy and keep animals illegally.

BIGT FROM F.B. · 02-01-14, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by psychocircus

all of them? even with the variety of species? that's crazy

I think there a stipulations on the Kings and Rat law. Every Repticon show I've been to in Georgia has had many of both for sale.

psychocircus · 02-01-14, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Terranaut

Interpret the link as you will.

guess I should have read it, lol.

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Originally Posted by BIGT FROM F.B.

It's our government that makes bullshit like this illegal in the first place. Look at all of the things that "should be" illegal, but there are too many pussies running this country......And yes, my attitude does suck. I got tired of taking **** from people a long time ago. (My opinion)

many of the laws are dumb. The lacy act prevents people from transporting burms over state lines but guess what that will lead to. The inability of those with several burms/burm offspring to sell their animals and increasing the risk of them releasing the animals in their own state. (ie: Florida). I also can't imagine corn snakes or rat snakes are in any immediate danger, but what do I know? All of this being said, the beauty in reptiles is the vast variety. There MUST be several other species that interest you.

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Originally Posted by Tsubaki

I don't even live on the same continent.. However, owning native snakes is not-done here either (Nearly all native animal species are endangered). I personally take offense if people still do, and i will always report offenders if they don't listen to my warnings. It puts the hobby in a bad light, why not stick to legal animals? There are so many beautiful alternatives around! Doing stuff like keeping illegal snakes, plays straight into the hand of people wanting to restrict the hobby. - Even if the law banning them is clearly horse sh*t-

There is much talk of restricting the hobby here as well, banning 'dangerous' snakes like burms and retics. (You can keep the ones you already own, but not get new ones) If they do, i heavily consider moving to Germany. But i would not buy and keep animals illegally.

I live in Maryland, which sits next to Pennsylvania. If I ever choose to keep venomous snakes (unlikely, but always in the back of my mind) I would move to Pennsylvania where it is legal. Too much can go wrong. the illegality of it just adds fuel to the fire if something goes wrong.

BIGT FROM F.B. · 02-01-14, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CK SandBoas

I apologize for the name calling.....but with all the legislation that is going on here, even keeping one illegal animal can be detrimental to this hobby....Why is it so difficult to understand the word "illegal".....

Bottom line here: Pretty soon, we won't have anymore freedom in this country. Look at it: Forced healthcare that nobody can afford, more taxes on the things you buy to help the government replenish the national debt.

(That's the best one I've heard so far). Small businesses are even being pushed out the door to make it harder for people to live. Our family business would be out of business if we haven't been grandfathered in 30 years ago. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy ALL of your views and opinions. If any of you ever hurt my feelings, you have clearly raised the bar!

Terranaut · 02-01-14, 07:16 PM

Stupid or not a law in your country or mine is a law. If you plan to own animals outside of the law be it a corn snake or black rhino it still make law abiders look bad too. If a law seems to be wrong in your opinion , fight it . Change it. Call your government about it. Not worth becoming a criminal over a pet. I am not assuming your about to break the law or anything....just some food for thought if you choose to.

shaunyboy · 02-01-14, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CK SandBoas

I apologize for the name calling.....but with all the legislation that is going on here, even keeping one illegal animal can be detrimental to this hobby....Why is it so difficult to understand the word "illegal".....

i agree with everything you've said pal

imo we don't need anyone giving all the anti reptile keeping groups,more ammunition and examples of bad keepers

cheers shaun

shaunyboy · 02-01-14, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGT FROM F.B.

Bottom line here: Pretty soon, we won't have anymore freedom in this country. Look at it: Forced healthcare that nobody can afford, more taxes on the things you buy to help the government replenish the national debt.

(That's the best one I've heard so far). Small businesses are even being pushed out the door to make it harder for people to live. Our family business would be out of business if we haven't been grandfathered in 30 years ago. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy ALL of your views and opinions. If any of you ever hurt my feelings, you have clearly raised the bar!

imo,it's not exactly sticking it to the man,when all your doing is showing our hobby in a bad way,your just giving all the anti's and law makers more reasons to attack our hobby

i live in the UK where its just as bad regards our government,hell we have more cctv per head of population than China,we have 1 camera for every 14 people,the poor are getting poorer,while the rich get richer,and they pass laws to suit their own agenda's.....

its crap over here,but i still wouldn't post about breaking a reptile law,as it paints the whole hobby in a bad light

cheers shaun

MDT · 02-01-14, 10:55 PM

Don't like the laws? Do something productive to change them. Cool thing about America...we can do that. However, until such time as you are successful, don't drag the rest of the hobby down by breaking (stupid) laws. There are so many other cool species you could own and work with.

**Aaron_S** · 02-02-14, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by psychocircus

What happened to no name-calling? I am not condoning keeping anything illegal, but do you truly believe he's going to endanger the hobby by buying a single corn snake?

I'm sure that's what the first person releasing a burm into the everglades said too.

"What will a single snake do?"

psychocircus · 02-02-14, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I'm sure that's what the first person releasing a burm into the everglades said too.

"What will a single snake do?"

completely irrelevant. We're talking about a snake native to Georgia. Apples and oranges. And again, I wasn't condoning it, I was just saying there is no need to be overly aggressive about the topic.