Uh-oh. I'm probably gonna' be in trouble

CK SandBoas · 02-01-14, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGT FROM F.B.

Eh, don't we all, in one way or another sometimes? I think DNR should concentrate on the real law breakers. Poachers, Trespassing etc.

Unbelievable...... That is the difference between you and me......I am not willing to keep anything that is not legal to keep. I am not willing to put this hobby that i love at risk because of pure selfishness.....All my animals that i keep are legal to keep, if they weren't, i would find new homes for them, because that would be the right thing to do.

Your attitude sucks, pure and simple.....try and start thinking of others before your own wants, jackass....

psychocircus · 02-01-14, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CK SandBoas

Unbelievable...... That is the difference between you and me......I am not willing to keep anything that is not legal to keep. I am not willing to put this hobby that i love at risk because of pure selfishness.....All my animals that i keep are legal to keep, if they weren't, i would find new homes for them, because that would be the right thing to do.

Your attitude sucks, pure and simple.....try and start thinking of others before your own wants, jackass....

What happened to no name-calling? I am not condoning keeping anything illegal, but do you truly believe he's going to endanger the hobby by buying a single corn snake?

CK SandBoas · 02-01-14, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by psychocircus

What happened to no name-calling? I am not condoning keeping anything illegal, but do you truly believe he's going to endanger the hobby by buying a single corn snake?

I apologize for the name calling.....but with all the legislation that is going on here, even keeping one illegal animal can be detrimental to this hobby....Why is it so difficult to understand the word "illegal".....

psychocircus · 02-01-14, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CK SandBoas

I apologize for the name calling.....but with all the legislation that is going on here, even keeping one illegal animal can be detrimental to this hobby....Why is it so difficult to understand the word "illegal".....

I think the best approach would be to warn the OP of the possible consequences of smuggling an animal into his/her state and suggest alternatives.

OP: In my opinion there are kingsnakes and ratsnakes that have patterns fairly similar and equally beautiful as the corns. Are there certain morphs you like? Perhaps we can help out more.

Terranaut · 02-01-14, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by psychocircus

I think the best approach would be to warn the OP of the possible consequences of smuggling an animal into his/her state and suggest alternatives.

OP: In my opinion there are kingsnakes and ratsnakes that have patterns fairly similar and equally beautiful as the corns. Are there certain morphs you like? Perhaps we can help out more.

Unfortunately kings and rats are both on the "do not keep " list for GA

psychocircus · 02-01-14, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Terranaut

Unfortunately kings and rats are both on the "do not keep " list for GA

all of them? even with the variety of species? that's crazy

BIGT FROM F.B. · 02-01-14, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by psychocircus

all of them? even with the variety of species? that's crazy

I think there a stipulations on the Kings and Rat law. Every Repticon show I've been to in Georgia has had many of both for sale.

BIGT FROM F.B. · 02-01-14, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CK SandBoas

I apologize for the name calling.....but with all the legislation that is going on here, even keeping one illegal animal can be detrimental to this hobby....Why is it so difficult to understand the word "illegal".....

Bottom line here: Pretty soon, we won't have anymore freedom in this country. Look at it: Forced healthcare that nobody can afford, more taxes on the things you buy to help the government replenish the national debt.

(That's the best one I've heard so far). Small businesses are even being pushed out the door to make it harder for people to live. Our family business would be out of business if we haven't been grandfathered in 30 years ago. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy ALL of your views and opinions. If any of you ever hurt my feelings, you have clearly raised the bar!

shaunyboy · 02-01-14, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGT FROM F.B.

Bottom line here: Pretty soon, we won't have anymore freedom in this country. Look at it: Forced healthcare that nobody can afford, more taxes on the things you buy to help the government replenish the national debt.

(That's the best one I've heard so far). Small businesses are even being pushed out the door to make it harder for people to live. Our family business would be out of business if we haven't been grandfathered in 30 years ago. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy ALL of your views and opinions. If any of you ever hurt my feelings, you have clearly raised the bar!

imo,it's not exactly sticking it to the man,when all your doing is showing our hobby in a bad way,your just giving all the anti's and law makers more reasons to attack our hobby

i live in the UK where its just as bad regards our government,hell we have more cctv per head of population than China,we have 1 camera for every 14 people,the poor are getting poorer,while the rich get richer,and they pass laws to suit their own agenda's.....

its crap over here,but i still wouldn't post about breaking a reptile law,as it paints the whole hobby in a bad light

cheers shaun

shaunyboy · 02-01-14, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CK SandBoas

I apologize for the name calling.....but with all the legislation that is going on here, even keeping one illegal animal can be detrimental to this hobby....Why is it so difficult to understand the word "illegal".....

i agree with everything you've said pal

imo we don't need anyone giving all the anti reptile keeping groups,more ammunition and examples of bad keepers

cheers shaun

**Aaron_S** · 02-02-14, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by psychocircus

What happened to no name-calling? I am not condoning keeping anything illegal, but do you truly believe he's going to endanger the hobby by buying a single corn snake?

I'm sure that's what the first person releasing a burm into the everglades said too.

"What will a single snake do?"

psychocircus · 02-02-14, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I'm sure that's what the first person releasing a burm into the everglades said too.

"What will a single snake do?"

completely irrelevant. We're talking about a snake native to Georgia. Apples and oranges. And again, I wasn't condoning it, I was just saying there is no need to be overly aggressive about the topic.

**Aaron_S** · 02-02-14, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by psychocircus

completely irrelevant. We're talking about a snake native to Georgia. Apples and oranges. And again, I wasn't condoning it, I was just saying there is no need to be overly aggressive about the topic.

Actually it's apples to apples.

You were making an argument that a single animal won't harm our hobby. I am proving you wrong considering it has many times in the past. Which makes it relevant.

Proof for me? It's in the cases I stated in the above post. We can also use the tragedy from New Brunswick in late 2013. It brought a lot of eyes upon the hobby as a whole and that was a single snake. So yes, a single animal CAN affect the hobby. A single person breaking the law with a single animal CAN and DOES affect the hobby.

Don't cast off an opposing view as irrelevant because it proves you wrong. Bring something substantial.

psychocircus · 02-02-14, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Actually it's apples to apples.

You were making an argument that a single animal won't harm our hobby. I am proving you wrong considering it has many times in the past. Which makes it relevant.

Proof for me? It's in the cases I stated in the above post. We can also use the tragedy from New Brunswick in late 2013. It brought a lot of eyes upon the hobby as a whole and that was a single snake. So yes, a single animal CAN affect the hobby. A single person breaking the law with a single animal CAN and DOES affect the hobby.

Don't cast off an opposing view as irrelevant because it proves you wrong. Bring something substantial.

What impact do you propose a single cornsnake being brought into Georgia would have? This is an animal that is already illegal to own, whereas in your examples it was a legal animal either released or that caused harm to a person.

**Aaron_S** · 02-03-14, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by psychocircus

What impact do you propose a single cornsnake being brought into Georgia would have? This is an animal that is already illegal to own, whereas in your examples it was a legal animal either released or that caused harm to a person.

The fact it is already illegal to own makes it worse! We should simply abide by the laws and instead of pissing and moaning on the internet about how stupid the law is how about being proactive and actually attempting to change it instead of waiting for someone else to do it.

For the record, the animal in New Brunswick was given illegal to keep as he lost his status as a zoo or some thing like that.