Arboreal ??? - Page 2

sirtalis · 07-20-16, 05:13 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4FoUZ_6zv0

Given the space any reptile will use it

sattva · 07-20-16, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sirtalis

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4FoUZ_6zv0

Given the space any reptile will use it

No doubt about it this is cool... But I question if it is necessary for a snake in captivity... Does it affect his health if he can't climb?

**Andy_G** · 07-20-16, 05:44 PM

There are two different methods that can be followed pretty reasonably in regards to givng enough space. Neither is "wrong" but some prefer one over the other. They are considered the minimum sizes so keep that in mind.

1. For every foot of snake there should be a square foot of floor space.

Or

2. Length plus width of the cage should equal the length of the snake.

As far as height, they will use it if it's given but it won't be detrimental if it's not. Also, you must account for the natural activity level of the specific species. More active snakes appreciate a bit more room to move and should be given it.

Some would say that if you only have a few snakes, why not go above and beyond the bare minimum? I can respect that outlook. Others will make a point that the snake doesn't care and it's others opinions that will clash with yours if you choose to do the bare minimum, which I am personally more inclined to agree with in most cases. My advice to you wouldnbe to find your own middleground as to what works for you and your snakes.

sattva · 07-20-16, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy_G

There are two different methods that can be followed pretty reasonably in regards to givng enough space. Neither is "wrong" but some prefer one over the other. They are considered the minimum sizes so keep that in mind.

1. For every foot of snake there should be a square foot of floor space.

Or

2. Length plus width of the cage should equal the length of the snake.

As far as height, they will use it if it's given but it won't be detrimental if it's not. Also, you must account for the natural activity level of the specific species. More active snakes appreciate a bit more room to move and should be given it.

Some would say that if you only have a few snakes, why not go above and beyond the bare minimum? I can respect that outlook. Others will make a point that the snake doesn't care and it's others opinions that will clash with yours if you choose to do the bare minimum, which I am personally more inclined to agree with in most cases. My advice to you wouldnbe to find your own middleground as to what works for you and your snakes.

This sounds right, I want to give my guys as much room as possible but real estate is minimal in a small apartment...

sattva · 07-20-16, 06:22 PM

Ok if Brian Barczyk is not good at husbandry who else is?

bigsnakegirl785 · 07-20-16, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian of Oldham

At my local rescue they are totally against racks and rubs, they will not rehome any snake that they think will be put in one

0.1.1 Royals 1.0 Corn 1.0 Boa 1.0 Carpet, O and a mad Cat.

Good, I'm not a huge fan of racks being used beyond temporary housing for hatchlings. I don't plan on using a rack beyond the first 6 months of a baby's life, or quarantine for really small snakes. Imo racks aren't permanent housing options.

As for standalone tubs/rubs, I'm on the fence with retics. Retics will outgrow even the largest tub really fast, like within a couple of months. So, I could see not wanting to house them in one. As long as a larger enclosure ready by the time they outgrow the tub, I don't see a problem using one temporarily, but again, it's not a permanent housing option.

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Originally Posted by sattva

Ok if Brian Barczyk is not good at husbandry who else is?

Just ask around on forums and you will get knowledge from experienced owners. There will be a lot of conflict, so it's up to you to take in and digest what you receive and determine what works for you. What works for one person may not work for another, and I've made many adaptations to care throughout the last several years of being on this forum.

sirtalis · 07-20-16, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sattva

No doubt about it this is cool... But I question if it is necessary for a snake in captivity... Does it affect his health if he can't climb?

Definitely not required for its health but it would benefit, i'd imagine climbing to be a good work out for a larger snake

sattva · 07-21-16, 09:08 AM

Ok! I think I might have my answer... Instead of my original 5x2x2 design, I can extend it out into the room a little and then down the wall in an L shape design. So the outside of the L shape will be 7'x4'8"... The longer part of the L will be 2' wide and the shorter only a foot and a half... But for height I can bump it up to four foot tall.

And for the other two {Ralph & Fred} I'll just have built the same cage on top and just split it for them... This is a ruff draft... It may change many times before the build but there is hope...

sattva · 07-21-16, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bigsnakegirl785

Good, I'm not a huge fan of racks being used beyond temporary housing for hatchlings. I don't plan on using a rack beyond the first 6 months of a baby's life, or quarantine for really small snakes. Imo racks aren't permanent housing options.

As for standalone tubs/rubs, I'm on the fence with retics. Retics will outgrow even the largest tub really fast, like within a couple of months. So, I could see not wanting to house them in one. As long as a larger enclosure ready by the time they outgrow the tub, I don't see a problem using one temporarily, but again, it's not a permanent housing option.

Just ask around on forums and you will get knowledge from experienced owners. There will be a lot of conflict, so it's up to you to take in and digest what you receive and determine what works for you. What works for one person may not work for another, and I've made many adaptations to care throughout the last several years of being on this forum.

I have this wall to wall to ceiling bookcase on the other side of my snake room... I was thinking it would hold about 100 king snakes... NO NO just kidding...In all seriousness this is some sound advise... Thank you!

sattva · 07-21-16, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sirtalis

Definitely not required for its health but it would benefit, i'd imagine climbing to be a good work out for a larger snake

My fear is I would have to have the fire department out to get it down!

Sublimeballs · 07-22-16, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Plenty of retic keepers keep snakes in racks and tubs and enclosures where the snakes body takes up half of it. Prehistoric pets, while having taller enclosures (still no branches) they have similar floor space.
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Jay is also not known for his ethics. If you're providing a thermal gradient in the cage the snake can't take up more than half the cage or they'd never be able to get full off or on the heat.