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07-14-16, 11:26 PM
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Re: bosc monitor set up, looking for improvements.
My rescue center now has 3 monitors in, they got the new one just yesterday. people need to understand how much room and time is needed for this sort of reptile.
2 Royals 1 Corn 1 Boa and a mad Cat
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07-15-16, 07:14 AM
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Re: bosc monitor set up, looking for improvements.
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Originally Posted by curious.boa.guy
I don't force handle him, (a he as he was probed) I open the door and hold out locust and he comes out then I walk him to the second enclosure, I have emptied the current substrate and refilled it with just a soil and sand mix and for the lighting I use a 150W crematic bulb and a 75W basking bulb around the basking spot and at the cool end I use a 75W with the additional 14% uvb
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You cannot probe a Varanid to determine gender, it`s also possible to cause them serious injuries by trying, so whoever did that CLEARLY has no idea what they`re doing. There is absolutely no need to feed in another enclosure even if you aren`t force handling (strange that the monitor is so calm after such a short time with you)?
The 150w ceramic bulb will dry out the air to a great extent, though it`s acceptable to use them to help raise the ambient temps (particularly during the night) I would advise changing the heat bulbs during the day.
Most experienced keepers use the relatively low wattage halogen bulbs, either par 30 or par 38 (the "par" only refers to the bulb face diameter), MUST be flood beam not spot. I would tentatively suggest you try 3 x 50w, place them a few cm apart in a row, raise/lower bulbs or basking object until you get the desired surface temp. You can buy these on eBay or one of the lighting manufacturers such as TLC Direct (in the U.K), they are quite cheap and can also be fitted with a dimmer switch.
An example of my young adult male Asian water monitor`s basking site, I need more bulbs because of his size....
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07-15-16, 12:13 PM
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Re: bosc monitor set up, looking for improvements.
Now thats a good set up
2 Royals, 1 Corn, 1 boa and a mad Cat.
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07-15-16, 12:33 PM
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Re: bosc monitor set up, looking for improvements.
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Now thats a good set up
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Hi, thanks, hopefully it will give the OP an idea of how to set up a basking site, including using "basking bulbs" that will heat at least the snout to vent length evenly which is extremely important...
http://i806.photobucket.com/albums/y...&1468607735777
http://i806.photobucket.com/albums/y...&1468607942407
Last edited by murrindindi; 07-15-16 at 12:42 PM..
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07-15-16, 02:01 PM
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Re: bosc monitor set up, looking for improvements.
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I don't have that much experience with Monitors apart from the rescue center, How ever what bit a do have seems to be a lot more that most.
2 Royals 1 Corn 1 Boa and a mad Cat.
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07-17-16, 08:23 AM
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Re: bosc monitor set up, looking for improvements.
It may seem like they are breaking balls, but they genuinely have your lizards well-being at heart. Stephan is one of the most knowledgeable and helpful varanid keepers I have met. You are off to a better start than most. Keep with it
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08-22-16, 07:41 AM
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Re: bosc monitor set up, looking for improvements.
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One more point, go 6 feet tall, if you only go 4 feet, 2 will have to be devoted to soil giving your monitor only 2 feet of space to crawl around. I'm building a 8Lx8Hx3W enclosure for my peacock monitor, keep in mind he's only 27 inches long and very slender. These animals require a huge amount of time and money, No offense intended but I'm tired of seeing monitor lizards kept in sub par enclosures
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why would you build a 8h cage for a sav? they dont need that much height for their cage because they do not climb much, i would reccomend a 8L 5W 4H enclosure for a sav
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08-22-16, 07:48 AM
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Re: bosc monitor set up, looking for improvements.
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Originally Posted by Darshor
why would you build a 8h cage for a sav? they dont need that much height for their cage because they do not climb much, i would reccomend a 8L 5W 4H enclosure for a sav
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Hi, in a 6ft tall enclosure with around 2 feet of substrate that will leave 4 feet of "air space" above ground, to suggest that is too high for them is quite silly, and if given the means they will climb.
In a 4ft tall enclosure a full grown adult could almost reach the top by standing on it`s hind legs if the substrate`s 2ft deep!
Have you any idea how much space these animals make use of in the wild?
"sirtails" mentions building an 8ft tall tank for his Peacock monitor (which again isn`t really "tall")....
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08-22-16, 09:23 AM
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Re: bosc monitor set up, looking for improvements.
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08-26-16, 02:12 PM
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Re: bosc monitor set up, looking for improvements.
Video isn't working man. I want to see more.
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08-26-16, 03:22 PM
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Re: bosc monitor set up, looking for improvements.
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Video isn't working man. I want to see more.
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The video works fine for me.
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08-26-16, 03:52 PM
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Re: bosc monitor set up, looking for improvements.
It doesn't work for me either, it does when i use the direct link and view it directly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOv3G-dIG1E
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08-29-16, 05:57 AM
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Re: bosc monitor set up, looking for improvements.
GREAT video Wayne.
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09-05-16, 04:15 PM
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Re: bosc monitor set up, looking for improvements.
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Originally Posted by murrindindi
Hi, in a 6ft tall enclosure with around 2 feet of substrate that will leave 4 feet of "air space" above ground, to suggest that is too high for them is quite silly, and if given the means they will climb.
In a 4ft tall enclosure a full grown adult could almost reach the top by standing on it`s hind legs if the substrate`s 2ft deep!
Have you any idea how much space these animals make use of in the wild?
"sirtails" mentions building an 8ft tall tank for his Peacock monitor (which again isn`t really "tall")....
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good point, unfortunately my ceilings are only 9 feet tall in my reptile room, given the space my peacock monitor would a 20 foot tall enclosure haha
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09-05-16, 04:19 PM
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Re: bosc monitor set up, looking for improvements.
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Originally Posted by Darshor
why would you build a 8h cage for a sav? they dont need that much height for their cage because they do not climb much, i would reccomend a 8L 5W 4H enclosure for a sav
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Your joking right, a healthy savannah monitor would definitely climb, a 4 foot tall cage gives virtually no air space, infernalis has a picture of one of his savs tripoding and I guarantee you its more than 2 feet in the air, last point: a four foot tall cage would only give two feet of air space, most lights are going to hang down into the cage a bit meaning the monitor could easily pull them down and potentially burn itself
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