Why is this considered acceptable?

[bigsnakegirl785]

Originally Posted by sirtalis

LOL at a room for a garter snake

lol Me, too. Despite the assumptions people are making I do draw the line somewhere.

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

You are giving the impression you're talking larger space. I don't see how a 2x2 for some species can be given such varied humid/dry areas (outside of a humid hide), light/dark space etc. as you described.

I am all for people enjoying their animals if all care has been met. I personally err on the side of caution when discussing all of these additions to an enclosure because then we're opening up everything to the possibility of more things to go wrong.

Sometimes we need to go back to "simple is best".

Eh, that's why I vary the minimum by species.

I mean, I tried my best to show that wasn't what I was showing. I tried explaining exactly what I was saying, and even spaced out the paragraphs in order to make my points easier to read. *shrug*

Yeah, I guess with a beginner I could see simpler being better, but if someone wants to add some extra stuff and they have the know-how to tweak as needed, I think it's a bit unfair to say they're being irresponsible. And the microclimates could be as easy as just offering a thermal gradient and a humid hide here or there. Easy peasy.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by bigsnakegirl785

lol Me, too. Despite the assumptions people are making I do draw the line somewhere.



Eh, that's why I vary the minimum by species.

I mean, I tried my best to show that wasn't what I was showing. I tried explaining exactly what I was saying, and even spaced out the paragraphs in order to make my points easier to read. *shrug*

Yeah, I guess with a beginner I could see simpler being better, but if someone wants to add some extra stuff and they have the know-how to tweak as needed, I think it's a bit unfair to say they're being irresponsible. And the microclimates could be as easy as just offering a thermal gradient and a humid hide here or there. Easy peasy.

Forums are forums. Sometimes what we say and type doesn't come across the way we intend. No harm, no foul.

I never said anyone would be being irresponsible offering a properly built larger enclosure with the appropriate amount of heat and humidity. Lots of pictures out there.

I personally find some of the really nice ones to probably look better without any animals in them, or just tiny animals, so they don't ruin the landscaping.

[bigsnakegirl785]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Forums are forums. Sometimes what we say and type doesn't come across the way we intend. No harm, no foul.

I never said anyone would be being irresponsible offering a properly built larger enclosure with the appropriate amount of heat and humidity. Lots of pictures out there.

I personally find some of the really nice ones to probably look better without any animals in them, or just tiny animals, so they don't ruin the landscaping.

This is true.

You might not have but some others were saying this.

I'd have to agree! I've seen some absolutely amazing enclosures, some of them huge, some of them not, and the animals do tend to distract from it. In a personal home I suppose that's not so important, but sometimes I find myself looking at the cages rather than the animals in a really nice cage. Species like GTPs, and arboreal colubrids seem to fit nicely in those sorts of spaces, though, especially if their colors match the surroundings.