Considering my first python - smaller... - Page 2

IW17 · 02-25-16, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sam

Womas are not good beginner snakes, here they come at $1000+ for a decent specimen, OP is looking for a cheap easy snake. Carpets and Childrens are the best in this regard. Though Womas are awesome snakes, arguably better than Carpets in some eyes, they're simply not easy to come by and thus isn't for OP.

Care to elaborate on this a bit? You live in another country yet you list a high price and availability as a reason not to choose a woma. Womas are fairly common here, although not as common as carpets. And pricewise they are in the same range. Average carpet prices are gonna be around $150-200 and womas are $150+ depending on breeder and stock.

Humble308 · 02-25-16, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by IW17

Care to elaborate on this a bit? You live in another country yet you list a high price and availability as a reason not to choose a woma. Womas are fairly common here, although not as common as carpets. And pricewise they are in the same range. Average carpet prices are gonna be around $150-200 and womas are $150+ depending on breeder and stock.

That's what I was wondering. Reptile Rapture has 3 males right now for $250 + ship. Right in my budget. Thanks to you guys I've got it narrowed down to carpets and the woma. Looking at either the IJ or Bredli for carpets...my gut keeps telling me woma, not quite sure why. Thanks again yall.

jpsteele80 · 02-25-16, 04:25 PM

From what i understand womas are a little more high strung

**Minkness** · 02-25-16, 05:47 PM

Bredlies are nice, but they will get big. Stick with an IJ if you want a smaller snake. =)

Mine are my garbage disposals lol. Temp, size, type (rat, mouse, ect) don't matter. Just wiggle it a bit and BAM!!! Watch your fingers

REM955 · 02-25-16, 06:52 PM

Well. I will say that I am looking to get a Woma as my first snake, so we will see how it works as a beginner. I get to be a guinea pig. Here's hoping the snake doesn't mistake me for one. (Not intending to feed one to said Woma)

IW17 · 02-25-16, 07:21 PM

I'll play devil's advocate, get a woma. I've had many carpets and for me, not nearly as interesting. Woma pythons are just such a neat species.

jpsteele80 · 02-25-16, 07:36 PM

Naw better yet just forget everything that was said and jump out there and get a retic, burm or an anaconda

**Minkness** · 02-25-16, 07:41 PM

Lol, OP wanted a SMALL snake!

Though SD retics are sooooo awwwsome *___*

sam · 02-25-16, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Humble308

Sam could you elaborate on this a bit, arguably better in what ways? I don't see them alot, but I have seen a few that are well within my budget. Thanks!

Womas are great snakes, awesome feeding response, hardy as all heck, dog tame when not hungry, interesting behaviour. They aren't arboreal so you won't need to spend as much on a tank and they don't have heat pits (which I think is kinda neat.)

If you've found Womas for a good price then thats awesome. Here's a really good article on womas. This guy also has some articles on Carpet Pythons and breeding. http://www.southernxreptiles.com/Art...Fs/woma_lr.pdf

If you want some more info on the australian snakes in captivity have a look at this http://www.southernxreptiles.com/Art...testing_lr.pdf

By all means have a look at the rest of his articles, they've all been really useful to me. Reptile Husbandry Articles by Southern Cross Reptiles

sam · 02-25-16, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by IW17

Care to elaborate on this a bit? You live in another country yet you list a high price and availability as a reason not to choose a woma. Womas are fairly common here, although not as common as carpets. And pricewise they are in the same range. Average carpet prices are gonna be around $150-200 and womas are $150+ depending on breeder and stock.

I live in the natural habitat of Womas, you'd expect the price would be the best here. But I guess you get what you pay for. Here there are loads of different localities avaliable, some cost more than others.

riddick07 · 02-25-16, 08:43 PM

My woma is iffy half the time. He can be handled but I wouldn't trust him with a kid or anything. He reacts really fast to any movement. I'm guessing he'll calm down as he gets older and used to more handling. He is no where near as bad as my one beauty snake haha

I want a carpet in the future. I hear good things about them but most don't appeal to me. Just the ones that cost a pretty penny when it comes to color. I think either one will be fine.

Herpo · 02-25-16, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by riddick07

My woma is iffy half the time. He can be handled but I wouldn't trust him with a kid or anything. He reacts really fast to any movement. I'm guessing he'll calm down as he gets older and used to more handling. He is no where near as bad as my one beauty snake haha

I want a carpet in the future. I hear good things about them but most don't appeal to me. Just the ones that cost a pretty penny when it comes to color. I think either one will be fine.

Womas are often on edge because of where they come from. Their natural habitat is deserts, and as hatchies, they are prey for alot of things before they become the top predators they grow up to be. Eagles and monitors are everywhere, and so they have to be vigilant.

Regarding carpets, all I can say is they are worth every penny!

Derek Roddy · 02-26-16, 09:03 AM

Can't really go wrong with any of the species you named. They all wonderful animals. It comes down to what YOU like and see yourself working with.

I have a good many animals on my site to look at if you'd like to have a look.
Derek Roddys Black Headed Pythons - Home

Don't have much available right now but at least you'll see several variations you might dig. Check em out and reach out if you have any questions

Cheers
D

Humble308 · 02-26-16, 10:25 AM

Awesome Derek thanks. I'll send you a PM!

Thanks yall for all the help.

IW17 · 02-26-16, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sam

I live in the natural habitat of Womas, you'd expect the price would be the best here. But I guess you get what you pay for. Here there are loads of different localities avaliable, some cost more than others.

I'd say it has more to do with Australia's import/export laws than "getting what you pay for".