A Real Conversation About Licensing

[jossh27]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

There's classroom time for a number of licenses. I believe to become a pilot you need to. Even as a "hobby" pilot.

Pretty much means if you're serious to do it then you'll take the classes. Trust me, we all have time somewhere for an hour here or there.

I believe in the fees. I really like microchipping animals as an idea. Simple scan and people know if you're supposed to have it or not.

Could be as simple as uploading the chip number to a registry everytime you buy or sell an animal. The seller could also "release" the number so it registers as sold/bought. Or traded or whatever.

Sure. im not against micro chipping but whos responsible for it? the breeders? the buyer? well ultimately the buyer would after the sale costs increase, but dont you think thats enough?

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by jossh27

Sure. im not against micro chipping but whos responsible for it? the breeders? the buyer? well ultimately the buyer would after the sale costs increase, but dont you think thats enough?

I'm fine with the breeder paying for them. And to be fair, chips don't cost too much. I would think bulk discounts would happen and the prices would or should come down. No way to know for sure.

[Minkness]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

There's classroom time for a number of licenses. I believe to become a pilot you need to. Even as a "hobby" pilot.

Pretty much means if you're serious to do it then you'll take the classes. Trust me, we all have time somewhere for an hour here or there.

I believe in the fees. I really like microchipping animals as an idea. Simple scan and people know if you're supposed to have it or not.

Could be as simple as uploading the chip number to a registry everytime you buy or sell an animal. The seller could also "release" the number so it registers as sold/bought. Or traded or whatever.

Also would be a good way to keep track of type and gender. Maybe not 100% but netter than now perhaps.

[bigsnakegirl785]

Originally Posted by jossh27

see it how ever you want... I know I'm not alone on this. I'm not sure of your daily life schedule, but my free time is hard to come by. myself nor anyone else should have to spend it in a classroom or online doing classes just to be able to own a large snake. seems silly to me and still wont weed out the irresponsible owners.

If you have no free time why are you even considering a pet in the first place? It takes time to maintain husbandry and check on snakes. It takes time to change water and bedding. It takes time to clean and sanitize enclosures. It takes time to set up enclosures. If you don't have free time, you don't have time for an animal. And a large constrictor would be even more taxing, especially since there's usually more than one person involved. When I expand bedding for just two enclosures, it takes me a good 3-4 hours just to expand it. Then I have to also strain it, empty the enclosures, and replace the bedding. That only happens a few times a year, but it still takes awhile.

I make sure to try to set aside ~2 hours per day at least a few times a week to handle my snakes, I feel it's very important in monitoring health and makes noticing illnesses quicker if you interact with them regularly.

If I felt my life schedule was too taxing to take classes to own my animals, if that sort of legislation were to be instated in my area, I would do what I felt was best for my animals and re-home them. But that's just me.

[SSSSnakes]

Making people take training or making them get a license is not going to make them a better keeper. Look at how it has worked out with driver licenses.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by SSSSnakes

Making people take training or making them get a license is not going to make them a better keeper. Look at how it has worked out with driver licenses.

I'm not worried about making better keepers with a licensing program.

I see it in two ways.

1. A real community. People that want to disobey the law wouldnt be considered apart of the community. Leading to my second point.

2. Showing the legislators that we're as concerned about policing ourselves as they are. I believe it would show that we're willing to play ball.

[Minkness]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I'm not worried about making better keepers with a licensing program.

I see it in two ways.

1. A real community. People that want to disobey the law wouldnt be considered apart of the community. Leading to my second point.

2. Showing the legislators that we're as concerned about policing ourselves as they are. I believe it would show that we're willing to play ball.

Agreed, though I'd like to add that it would also help protect from (otherwise responsible) people who lack that commitment from getting an animal they may not be able to handle. Thinkbof parents who buy leos for theirkids then keep them on sand with a UV light over head all it's life. If it were more than an impulse buy, either that parent wouldn't buy it, or would know that samd is the umber 1 killer of leos (and many other reptiles). Even if this only increased responsible ownership by 10%, I feel that it's done it's job.