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Old 07-17-15, 09:34 AM   #1
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The first film also was a huge part of my childhood, but that is not the film most are talking about. In the first film they portrayed the T rex as a predator with no motivation but too survive, which no matter who can agree would be accurate. Where they really started to develop the ''character'' was in the later films. It is ridiculous how they started to humanize these creatures. Even the idea of her being a protective mother is based on very little fact and was more for story than accuracy. It is some what of a tragedy what these movies became. They would have been smart to follow the books more closely. I have not seen the newest one but hope it is as good as you all say.
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The first film also was a huge part of my childhood, but that is not the film most are talking about. In the first film they portrayed the T rex as a predator with no motivation but too survive, which no matter who can agree would be accurate. Where they really started to develop the ''character'' was in the later films. It is ridiculous how they started to humanize these creatures. Even the idea of her being a protective mother is based on very little fact and was more for story than accuracy. It is some what of a tragedy what these movies became. They would have been smart to follow the books more closely. I have not seen the newest one but hope it is as good as you all say.
You should check your facts. It is almost absolute certain that T rex were fiercly defending their young. After all they are birds and no bird species exist that does not care for its young. And even if you claim this to be speculative we can still take the T rex Sue. The massive female that now resides in the Chicago fields museum, which was found united with two juvenile T rex. The smaller one had a living weight about 30 kg. Considering the fact that other Theropods like Troodon and Oviraptor are known to be good mothers the fossil evidence proves that T rex cared for its young. Propably even until it reached an age about 2 years.

That scientific facts aside, why would they have been smart to follow the books, which were mostly not very popular and most people donīt even know exist.

The latest movie made 1.5 billion $. They propably were smart to do exactly what they did.
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You should check your facts. It is almost absolute certain that T rex were fiercly defending their young. After all they are birds and no bird species exist that does not care for its young. And even if you claim this to be speculative we can still take the T rex Sue. The massive female that now resides in the Chicago fields museum, which was found united with two juvenile T rex. The smaller one had a living weight about 30 kg. Considering the fact that other Theropods like Troodon and Oviraptor are known to be good mothers the fossil evidence proves that T rex cared for its young. Propably even until it reached an age about 2 years.

That scientific facts aside, why would they have been smart to follow the books, which were mostly not very popular and most people donīt even know exist.

The latest movie made 1.5 billion $. They propably were smart to do exactly what they did.
Wrong. Sue was not found with juveniles and scientist are not even sure Sue was a female. The remains are important as they are the most complete specimen found to this date. The fact is that no T. rex nests or eggs have been discovered. Also the few juveniles that have been found and they are not even sure if they are the same species or Nanotyrannus. Birds are decedents of a small, likely gregarious, species of dinosaur that was not closesly related to T. rex. Check your facts, mate.
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Wrong. Sue was not found with juveniles and scientist are not even sure Sue was a female. The remains are important as they are the most complete specimen found to this date. The fact is that no T. rex nests or eggs have been discovered. Also the few juveniles that have been found and they are not even sure if they are the same species or Nanotyrannus. Birds are decedents of a small, likely gregarious, species of dinosaur that was not closesly related to T. rex. Check your facts, mate.
T rex is a tyrannosaurid. Tyrannosauridae for most parts were small creatures (Guanlong for example). Birds are theropods and so are Tyrannosauridae. Not only that, there is not one archosaurus known who has no maternal feelings. Be it birds or crocodiles. The brain of T rex (as it is of all Tyrannosaurids) is birdlike and is much larger developed than that of Allosauridae.

Sue was found united with 2 juveniles by her side. Thats a simple fact. There was also one bone from an Edmontosaurus found inside Sues ribcage and that one was acid etched and was most likely part of her last meal.

Maybe you should deepen your knowledge about the topic before you offend someone to "check his facts".
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The first film also was a huge part of my childhood, but that is not the film most are talking about. In the first film they portrayed the T rex as a predator with no motivation but too survive, which no matter who can agree would be accurate. Where they really started to develop the ''character'' was in the later films. It is ridiculous how they started to humanize these creatures. Even the idea of her being a protective mother is based on very little fact and was more for story than accuracy. It is some what of a tragedy what these movies became. They would have been smart to follow the books more closely. I have not seen the newest one but hope it is as good as you all say.
The creators were trying to reflect the latest discoveries of the time, among which was evidence of maternal care in T. rex. In the first film she did not have any offspring, so this information was irrelevant. I do admit that the newest movie anthropomorphized all the dinosaurs a bit, though, especially in the final battle. That didn't detract from my nostalgic feelings, though. Jurassic World was a lot less educational than the original Jurassic Park(if it was educational at all...maybe not), but with Jurassic World the greater appeal is action, which was delivered well.
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