Rattlesnake killed by feeder squirrel

[SnoopySnake]

Originally Posted by Zelg

I'm pretty lacking in knowledge when it comes to snakes but my gut reaction to this is wondering why you think that mangroves and hoggies are similar. I mean other than the obvious rear fanged classification.

I'm going to assume that you've read about rear fanged snakes needing to "chew" in their venom as opposed to a viper that injects the venom directly into you in one swift bite. You mention mild venom hoggies but then in your next post, wonder why hoggies are ok but mangroves are not AND stating that they are equally as dangerous.

Again, I'm not the most knowledgeable guy but it sounds like you need to do a lot of reading up on the snakes you're interested in. Like book reading or article reading. Learn a little bit about rear fanged snakes IN GENERAL and then move on to your specific interests and learn as much as you can about the risks of owning and caring for the snake of your interest. Dont just assume that because hoggies are sold to kids as starter snakes that it means that mangroves should be treated the same. Also, compare the size of the two. I know we're talking about venom the size difference shouldnt be ignored either.

I don't think he meant a mangrove viper, I think he meant a mangrove snake. Mangrove snakes are a rear fanged colubrids, as opposed to the mangrove viper which is a viper and not rear fanged.

[Zelg]

Originally Posted by SnoopySnake

I don't think he meant a mangrove viper, I think he meant a mangrove snake. Mangrove snakes are a rear fanged colubrids, as opposed to the mangrove viper which is a viper and not rear fanged.

I should have been a littler clearer I think. I WAS referring to the mangrove snake, not the viper. I was just trying to highlight that theres a difference between the two delivery systems (rear fanged vs vipers or other snakes that inject) and that just because snakes are rear fanged and dont require a hot license, doesnt mean that the snake is not dangerous (a little research for the OP sounds absolutely neccesary. As I understand it, mangroves bites can be fairy dangerous, at least more dangerous than hognose bites. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

[SnoopySnake]

Originally Posted by Zelg

I should have been a littler clearer I think. I WAS referring to the mangrove snake, not the viper. I was just trying to highlight that theres a difference between the two delivery systems (rear fanged vs vipers or other snakes that inject) and that just because snakes are rear fanged and dont require a hot license, doesnt mean that the snake is not dangerous (a little research for the OP sounds absolutely neccesary. As I understand it, mangroves bites can be fairy dangerous, at least more dangerous than hognose bites. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

Oh okay I got confused because you mentioned vipers. I don't know anything about their venom. I have also heard their bites aren't too pretty, though. I agree that they can still be dangerous even if they're rear fanged.

[Zelg]

Originally Posted by SnoopySnake

Oh okay I got confused because you mentioned vipers. I don't know anything about their venom. I have also heard their bites aren't too pretty, though. I agree that they can still be dangerous even if they're rear fanged.

No worries friend. I dont know exactly how mangrove bites are but everything i've heard people say is that they're not to be taken too lightly.

One other thing OP might want to do is check out youtube videos of people handling these snakes(misc. rear fanged). People handling their hognoses do so without worry. The few videos i've watched of people handling their mangroves, its been with great care and a careful eye on where that head is at all times. Not to mention I constantly hear that they are aggressive/easily agitated so handling isnt always easy with them.

Again, I dont own any rear fanged but the limited research I've done on them when looking into new snakes to keep has shown that people are often mislead into thinking or at the very least simply misunderstand the rear fang classification as being harmless across the board.