Baby Snake

[Ballchris]

beautiful snake love corn's

[jjhill001]

Originally Posted by sunkissedpython

I've fed both out of tank and in tank and honestly I just feed out of tank now. I've had a few crappy occurrences when I fed in tank…The worst was my ball python struck for the mouse and missed, and ending up getting a piece of aspen lodged into his mouth. You can only guess what that means :/ I had to reach in (and of course he's going to think I'm a mouse) and he went for my hand. He's also not to much of baby at this point anymore mind you, he started constricting me so while this was all happening I had to use my other hand to pull out the aspen and then uncoil him. It was really terrible experience and thankfully he never bit me again or anything but he wasn't going to be able to get the aspen out by himself, I waited a second to give him a chance. So you really never know with your substrate, I had actually started getting different aspen to so that wasn't as likely to happen, and it still did.
Another thing is and by no means do I think this is scientifically proven or affects every snake, but one of my ball pythons did become a lot more aggressive when I started feeding him in his terrarium. He started acting like he was constantly waiting for my hand to give him food, then he started striking at the tank any time I walked by a few days after I would feed him. Any time I tried to take him out he would strike at me and it just became a really sketch, unbearable situation.
Again, not saying this is going to happen or it's best to feed out of cage-but these are just my experiences.
Your baby is looking so cute!

Lol, an aggressive ball python? Sounds more fun than the typical BP stories haha.

[sunkissedpython]

Originally Posted by Luthien

I totally hear you those were my concerns, the aspen and biting thinking I'm food but a couple of my friends also have corn snakes and feed in the viv, what they have done is trained their snakes that a knock on the glass means food time, now when they hear that knock they come out and look for the food. So I'm going to try that but so far we've had 2 successful feelings and she hasn't even looked like she wants to bite me!

As for the bedding I've been feeding her by her "open hide" so what I do before feeding is lay a piece of paper towel down on top of the bedding and feed on there removing it as soon as the mouse is down, she doesn't seem to mind and eases my mind about the bedding

The photo is her color now, she just had her first shed with me!

The knocking is a good idea! I never thought of that I've heard of a few tricks like only using a snake hook for feeding time and gently tapping them on the body, etc. But the tapping on the glass sounds like a really good indicator of food time!
Also, I think your idea with a paper towel over the aspen is perfect! No complaints on my part are you feeding f/t or live? If your feeding live just keep a close eye on the mouse and make sure it doesn't wander off the paper towel lol!
He looks absolutely gorgeous! I can't wait until my female ball python sheds, she's been growing so much the past month, it's crazy! You're also really making me miss my corns >.< hehe maybe when I go to the next expo...

[sunkissedpython]

Originally Posted by jjhill001

Lol, an aggressive ball python? Sounds more fun than the typical BP stories haha.

Yeah…it would have been more fun if it wasn't a rescue snake and already adult size. First time I ever get a little sketch with a ball python. And it just kept getting worse Ended up handing her over to a friend who wanted another display snake for an empty tank. And now I have a super docile, sweet female so I guess its a win/win for everyone.

[Luthien]

Originally Posted by sunkissedpython

The knocking is a good idea! I never thought of that I've heard of a few tricks like only using a snake hook for feeding time and gently tapping them on the body, etc. But the tapping on the glass sounds like a really good indicator of food time!
Also, I think your idea with a paper towel over the aspen is perfect! No complaints on my part are you feeding f/t or live? If your feeding live just keep a close eye on the mouse and make sure it doesn't wander off the paper towel lol!
He looks absolutely gorgeous! I can't wait until my female ball python sheds, she's been growing so much the past month, it's crazy! You're also really making me miss my corns >.< hehe maybe when I go to the next expo...

I feed f/t so no chance of the mouse running off
The tapping is actually working great! I tapped the first time I fed her and then took her out to her "open hide" to feed, then the second time I tapped again and she actually stuck her head out of the hide to look lol

[sunkissedpython]

Originally Posted by Luthien

I feed f/t so no chance of the mouse running off
The tapping is actually working great! I tapped the first time I fed her and then took her out to her "open hide" to feed, then the second time I tapped again and she actually stuck her head out of the hide to look lol

Sounds like everything is going good

[Derek1]

Great looking Corn! Do you have more pics of your homemade enclosure?

[Luthien]

Yup we're doing really good so far!

Here are some pictures of the enclosure, right now it's housing a sick/dying Bearded Dragon but after I will be renovating it for my corn!

Postimage.org / gallery - image, image, image, image

[sunkissedpython]

What does the enclosure you have him in right now look like?

[Luthien]

Just plain

http://s5.postimg.org/l5ygw180n/image.jpg

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by sunkissedpython

Yeah…it would have been more fun if it wasn't a rescue snake and already adult size. First time I ever get a little sketch with a ball python. And it just kept getting worse Ended up handing her over to a friend who wanted another display snake for an empty tank. And now I have a super docile, sweet female so I guess its a win/win for everyone.

I'm glad everything worked out in the end. However, the 'aggressiveness' never had anything to do with feeding in the tank. Your snake was extremely defensive. It didn't feel secure in your home for whatever reason. Something you probably just overlooked but no big deal.

I am not trying to be harsh I want to dispel the myth of an aggressive snake (they aren't. Defensive or feeding are the only two reasons they strike) as well as feeding in the enclosure.

Your substrate incident happens. Snakes pass that stuff all the time without issue. I've had slivers of aspen in the lip of one snake and I just held it behind the head to remove it. I do have hooks though so I don't get bit going in.

[Luthien]

Who doesn't love pictures??? More on Eve, she's doing really well and has settled quite nicely! So gentle and calm yet active I couldn't ask for better first snake!

Postimage.org / Eve

[sunkissedpython]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I'm glad everything worked out in the end. However, the 'aggressiveness' never had anything to do with feeding in the tank. Your snake was extremely defensive. It didn't feel secure in your home for whatever reason. Something you probably just overlooked but no big deal.

I am not trying to be harsh I want to dispel the myth of an aggressive snake (they aren't. Defensive or feeding are the only two reasons they strike) as well as feeding in the enclosure.

Your substrate incident happens. Snakes pass that stuff all the time without issue. I've had slivers of aspen in the lip of one snake and I just held it behind the head to remove it. I do have hooks though so I don't get bit going in.

This didn't start until 4-6 months after I had her. No changes were made either, I didn't move her into a different enclosure, changed hides, etc. Sure maybe a snake isn't typical to have an 'aggressive' self, but defensively aggressive if you will then. Which became my normal like I said after sometime with her. First months of having her I was able to take her out, handle her, walk by her cage all without issue, then it was almost a constant aggressive attitude out of her. I figure to a certain degree snakes should be able to pass through quite a bit of substrate without issue, but when a piece of substrate gets lodged into the mouth-I think theres an issue. Looking back a snake hook would have probably saved me a bite but I didn't have a snake hook at the time
But enough of about me and my snake experience, I'm taking away from Eve's stardom on this thread Enclosure looks like a good start! Those fake leaves or a branch or two for him to climb on would make Eve really happy, my corn would climb all the time back when I had him.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by sunkissedpython

This didn't start until 4-6 months after I had her. No changes were made either, I didn't move her into a different enclosure, changed hides, etc. Sure maybe a snake isn't typical to have an 'aggressive' self, but defensively aggressive if you will then. Which became my normal like I said after sometime with her. First months of having her I was able to take her out, handle her, walk by her cage all without issue, then it was almost a constant aggressive attitude out of her. I figure to a certain degree snakes should be able to pass through quite a bit of substrate without issue, but when a piece of substrate gets lodged into the mouth-I think theres an issue. Looking back a snake hook would have probably saved me a bite but I didn't have a snake hook at the time
But enough of about me and my snake experience, I'm taking away from Eve's stardom on this thread Enclosure looks like a good start! Those fake leaves or a branch or two for him to climb on would make Eve really happy, my corn would climb all the time back when I had him.

I'm not trying to derail a thread. I call these moments "teachable moments" when there's a good opportunity to dispel a myth or educate on a certain topic. I like to put information out there for everyone to read. There's many people who read the forums but don't post who may want the information.

I'm going to say something happened with your snake and it became defensive. It's possible as it grew it became more confident and was defensive towards you because it thought you were a predator. As you grew fearful the snake knew what it had to do to get the predator to back off saving it's life. All natural instinct.

[Luthien]

Originally Posted by sunkissedpython

But enough of about me and my snake experience, I'm taking away from Eve's stardom on this thread Enclosure looks like a good start! Those fake leaves or a branch or two for him to climb on would make Eve really happy, my corn would climb all the time back when I had him.

No worries learning is a good experience no matter where we do it.

The viv you see in her pictures is a temp viv, I'm making another bigger one with climbing stuff and hides and it will be great!