My ACE prefers cold?

[SSSSnakes]

Originally Posted by shaunyboy

P.S. Wheres Wayne when we need him ? (anyone know why Wayne's not been on for a while ? )

I think I heard he was killed by his Boa. LOL That would make him the second reported case in the US.

If the hobbyist are going to exaggerate the facts, God help us what the media will do.

[Ace4me]

Originally Posted by SnoopySnake

Have you considered maybe he soaks like that because his humidity wasn't/isn't high enough? Boas need around 50-60% humidity and the average home doesn't have half that.

No, because quite honestly, I've never understood humidity in the first place.
I do know, however, that he is potty trained ! He will enjoy wandering all over the house for several hours and then I put him in the water all warmed up and instant poop! I then change it of course.
I guess you'll can slam my "husbandry" all you desire but at least he has a great home and is truly loved (I certainly never thought I could seriously LOVE a snake).

[Ace4me]

Originally Posted by Minkness

OP is the troll

Well...at least when the snake gets bigger it'll have enough food for a year with the cats and rabbit being around.

Not hardly. And I am likely old enough to be your mother so you should really respect your elders.

[SSSSnakes]

Originally Posted by Ace4me

Not hardly. And I am likely old enough to be your mother so you should really respect your elders.

Respect is something that is earned, not given because of age. What I have seen you post here, you deserve no respect form the reptile community. The only thing I can see you post being is a joke on what not to do with your snake.

[CrotalusR#1]

Originally Posted by SSSSnakes

I think I heard he was killed by his Boa. LOL That would make him the second reported case in the US.

If the hobbyist are going to exaggerate the facts, God help us what the media will do.

My whole point is if it happened once it could happen again.
Like I said it's super unlikely, but if it did, do to this persons negligence it could effect us all. Not sure why you people are all worked up.
I was just stating a possibility and that possibility has happened before and didn't go unnoticed. It's important that people realize that something as simple as there boa escaping and being found and them being reported to the news can and will effect is all.

You guys need to calm down and not jump on every little thing like it's the end of the world, it really makes forums look bad.

Seems like the last handful of threads have just been a bunch of **** measuring contests

[Minkness]

Originally Posted by SSSSnakes

Respect is something that is earned, not given because of age. What I have seen you post here, you deserve no respect form the reptile community. The only thing I can see you post being is a joke on what not to do with your snake.

Nicely said =)

And OP, if you don't even understand 'the humidity thing' it amazes me you still have a snake.

If you don't like what this community has to say about your husbandry or you seriously feel that what you're doing is fine, but love your animal, take it to a reptile vet and find out what's wrong with him.'liking' cold is not in any reptile's nature so there may actually be something wrong. And if you LOVE him like you claim, you should fix whatever it is he needs to make sure he's as healthy as he is happy.

Kids are perfectly happy eating junk food and staying out past their bed times, but that doesn't make it HEALTHY.

And if you go to another forum with this same question, don't be butt hurt if you get the same responses. Forums are notoriously over run with us fanatics, so few will agree with your views or pat you on the back and say "cool, that's ok".


You're doing wrong by your pets, hard truth hurts sometimes, but that doesn't make it any less true.

And I mean all your pets. Won't surprise me one bit if one of your cats or rabbit go missing...or that your snake is found wounded or dead if the cat manages to get the upper hand in that battle. Maybe not tomorrow, maybe not next month....but eventually, it's bound to happen.

Love him all you like, but sadly, love is not enough to fix your issues.

P.s. As for the troll comment...Trolls generally try to piss people off...you're just ignorant and stuborn.

[CrotalusR#1]

I think I heard he was killed by his Boa. LOL That would make him the second reported case in the US.

If the hobbyist are going to exaggerate the facts, God help us what the media will do.

I have said it like 5 times now, it's really unlikely and almost certainly won't happen but that's just not the point.

The point is that if it could happen and can be Avoided than avoid it, know what I mean?

And like I said if it did happen, it would affect us all.

You make it sound like I'm pro media and against large snakes. You couldn't be more wrong.

[Ace4me]

• Originally Posted by SSSSnakes

  Respect is something that is earned, not given because of age. What I have seen you post here, you deserve no respect form the reptile community. The only thing I can see you post being is a joke on what not to do with your snake.

Well, you can kiss my snake loving assssssssssssssss! I no longer care what your rude opinion is.

[Ace4me]

Originally Posted by Minkness

P.s. As for the troll comment...Trolls generally try to piss people off...you're just ignorant and stuborn.

I never made a troll comment, I simply refuted the fact that I am not one.
I came here with a serious question and still haven't gotten an admission that it "could" be a possibility, that he likes some cold.

If he was so bad off, he wouldn't look as good as he does unlike some of the photo's of others I have seen posted on the forums, especially that poor yellow, scrawny thing somewhere in here.

If I were stubborn, I wouldn't have taken the very small bit of advice, looked up info about humidity, changed the closet around to accommodate the same arrangement and items his aquarium had, etc.
He has eaten anything from medium to large frozen thawed mice to large rats frozen thawed 33 for the year and shed twice.
No mouth rot, no mites, no resp infects, not skinny, etc. I'd say I have done him damn well as a first time owner.
And if he was so deprived and miserable out roaming around, why, with the newly improved closet home is he crawling all over the closed door wanting out??? Don't answer that.

And have a great Christmas.

[Minkness]

Pift...someone else made the troll comment, though I stick by what I said. And, as someone else stated, you just don't like what we have to say about your question. People have given you serious answers. What you do with them is on you.

As for the question you asked and don't want answered....all snakes want out...regardless of the confinement. It's why it's such a serious topic of how to keep snakes IN their encloses, especially if they are going from a large enclosure to a small one, and some that go from small to large take a while to get used to the larger space as well.

Why even come on here and ask questions if you aren't going to 'seriously' take the advice? You could have simply asked "Do some snakes just like it cold?" But you didn't. You asked about your snake and exposed your husbandry to a community of enthusiasts that know that what you are doing is not ok and then tell you so. I may be wrong, but I don't believe anyone on this forum is going to stand by you or feel bad for your situation when it goes wrong, though we will all feel bad for the animals.

[shaunyboy]

Originally Posted by CrotalusR#1

Who's the troll?

the op mate,he/she is either a troll or has the worst attitude of any keeper ive ever come across



also i wasn't being cheeky about you,but.....

if you make claims like that,imo you can't just say oh i can't be arsed to look for links to back up what i'm saying,so go do it yourselves...

if you make bold or factual claims about reptiles or our hobby,then imo it's a MUST that factual proof must be provided by who ever is making the statement....

or it's merely an opinion or hear say....

imo facts are required even more if it's something detrimental to our hobby

i mean you no offence mate

all the best,shaun

[shaunyboy]

Originally Posted by Ace4me

Not hardly. And I am likely old enough to be your mother so you should really respect your elders.

i'm a father of 4 and grandfather of 5,that does NOT give me automatic respect,respect has to be earned in this life

feck all that respect your elders crap there's some well nasty old people out there,so if they don't earn it,it's simple they don't get any...

that's just my way of doing things,now that i think about it,my whole country thinks this way,in Scotland respect is earned never just given

i give everyone the same fair chance,also i treat people how they treat me (look at my signature)


i wish you a merry xmas and a happy healthy new year

All the best,Shaun

P.S. If you won't take credible advice,then this thread has ran it's course imo

[shaunyboy]

Originally Posted by Ace4me

Thank you FWK, for somewhat getting my back I guess you would say.
When I bought Kratos, later renamed ACE, he came with a 100 or 150 gallon aquarium. But he was ALWAYS in the water. I am not saying that is wrong but it just didn't seem like a very "happy" existence for me to visit and watch him, not 24/7 no, but ALOT only to see him simply there.
True, these kinds of animals/reptiles/pets aren't meant to be or known for "happy" but I just likened it to getting a sweet kitten or puppy and then seeing it tossed outside for scratching or chained up to a pole once it's "cute" wore off. I also had to sell the aquarium because, well, just because.
Before choosing to let ACE be seemingly happy this way, I literally got on hands and knees thru the entire less than 1000 sf home much in the way someone would baby proof a home. I was able to block off/out only 3 ways he could hide and none of the 3 ways lead to outside. This place is sealed because I choose not to waste money on heating bills now that it is winter.
Since my original question (why does he literally WANT to be cold?!) hasn't technically been answered, I guess I will remove my awestruck, chewed out registration and find another way to get answered without putting myself out like this again.

no matter how many decent keepers you ask.....


they will all tell you the same...

BUY A PROPER ENCLOSURE AND EQUIPMENT FOR YOUR BOA


cheers shaun

[shaunyboy]

Originally Posted by SSSSnakes

I think I heard he was killed by his Boa. LOL That would make him the second reported case in the US.

If the hobbyist are going to exaggerate the facts, God help us what the media will do.

^^^^^^


cheers shaun

[marvelfreak]

I can tell you why when you kept it in the cage it came with it was always in the water. You are using a heat lamp which dries up the humidity. I Found UTH under tank heaters or heat pads or heat tape work the best. They give it belly heat which helps them digest and doesn't dry the humidity up as fast as a heat lamp.

As far as letting him free roam. Is it really worth the risk to your cats or him. What if one day he does go after one of your cats. You could end up with a dead cat or snake or both. Just because it's working now doesn't mean it's the proper or safes way of caring for him. I mean if you truly love your snake and cats don't you want to give them the best care and keep them safe?