My ACE prefers cold?

[CrotalusR#1]

This is not the first time this person has done this.

It's not my opinion first of all.

So let's here where I have done this before unless this is just your opinion you need to show us write?? According to you, you do. So do it. Let's see it SSSSnakes.

[marvelfreak]

Here are are the facts. http://www.rexano.org/Statistics/Con...e_Fatality.pdf


This shows all recorded death by large constrictors. Only one by a Boa Constrictor and it says under the one chart that some news stations mislabeled the snake.

[CrotalusR#1]

Originally Posted by marvelfreak

Here are are the facts. http://www.rexano.org/Statistics/Con...e_Fatality.pdf


This shows all recorded death by large constrictors. Only one by a Boa Constrictor and it says under the one chart that some news stations mislabeled the snake.

That's only for the USA write?

[marvelfreak]

Originally Posted by CrotalusR#1

That's only for the USA write?

Yeah it the only thing i could fine.

[CrotalusR#1]

Originally Posted by marvelfreak

Yeah it the only thing i could fine.

Cool page tho. I know 2 of the three that are talked in this book aren't in the USA. The other is I'm the USA and has Ben talked about in this thread.

This is not the first time this person has done this.

So let's here where I have done this before unless this is just your opinion you need to show us write?? According to you, you do. So do it. Let's see it SSSSnakes.

[FWK]

Originally Posted by marvelfreak

Here are are the facts. http://www.rexano.org/Statistics/Con...e_Fatality.pdf


This shows all recorded death by large constrictors. Only one by a Boa Constrictor and it says under the one chart that some news stations mislabeled the snake.

This list is incomplete, only covering 1990-2012. I'm pretty sure the total number for the US is still 17 including the highly suspect salmonella case and another incident where the keeper suffered a heart attack while dealing with a large Retic. The number for North America is 23, the incident with the two boys CrotulasR#1 mentioned occurred in Canada.

[SSSSnakes]

Originally Posted by FWK

This list is incomplete, only covering 1990-2012. I'm pretty sure the total number for the US is still 17 including the highly suspect salmonella case and another incident where the keeper suffered a heart attack while dealing with a large Retic. The number for North America is 23, the incident with the two boys CrotulasR#1 mentioned occurred in Canada.

In this thread we are talking about Constrictor constrictor and not just any large snake. There is no question that many large snakes have killed people over the years. But here we are talking about a Boa constrictor that the lady is letting run loose in her house.

[marvelfreak]

Originally Posted by FWK

This list is incomplete, only covering 1990-2012. I'm pretty sure the total number for the US is still 17 including the highly suspect salmonella case and another incident where the keeper suffered a heart attack while dealing with a large Retic. The number for North America is 23, the incident with the two boys CrotulasR#1 mentioned occurred in Canada.

The list only has actually proven death cause physically by large constrictors.

The only way a boa could give someone salmonella is if they didn't properly clean their hands after handling it and said animal was keep in poor filthy living condition. So death by salmonella isn't really the constrictors fault but humans for not being clean.


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[FWK]

Originally Posted by marvelfreak

The list only has actually proven death cause physically by large constrictors.

The only way a boa could give someone salmonella is if they didn't properly clean their hands after handling it and said animal was keep in poor filthy living condition. So death by salmonella isn't really the constrictors fault but humans for not being clean.

The list only covers 1990-2012, there are well documented deaths between 1978 and 1989 as well. Every death on that list was the fault of the humans involved and entirely avoidable. The salmonella case, as I said, was and is highly suspect, most likely the hospitals error and had nothing to do with the snake.

Originally Posted by SSSSnakes

In this thread we are talking about Constrictor constrictor and not just any large snake. There is no question that many large snakes have killed people over the years. But here we are talking about a Boa constrictor that the lady is letting run loose in her house.

I am very much aware of the topics at hand.

Originally Posted by SSSSnakes

I agreed with you and now you start with the profanity. By forum rules your post should be removed. Adding **** to imply profanity is still against the rules.

You are often calling for threads to be shut down or posts to be removed for what you believe to be forum rules infections. Repeatedly attempting to silence those who disagree with you is just as transparent as becoming defensive because you don't have your facts straight.

Originally Posted by Flybit

omg my head hurts from slamming it against my computer...

You probably shouldn't do that.

[SSSSnakes]

Originally Posted by CrotalusR#1

It's not my opinion first of all.

So let's here where I have done this before unless this is just your opinion you need to show us write?? According to you, you do. So do it. Let's see it SSSSnakes.

When you were identifying a snake from another country you stated that you were 100% correct what the snake was. When asked to prove it you said, I have seen many of them and I am correct. Correct or not you did not prove anything. Saying a snake looks like a picture is not Identifying a snake. They go by scale counts and location where the snake was found.

The thread is in general discussions, titled, Help identifying a snake

[CrotalusR#1]

Originally Posted by SSSSnakes

When you were identifying a snake from another country you stated that you were 100% correct what the snake was. When asked to prove it you said, I have seen many of them and I am correct. Correct or not you did not prove anything. Saying a snake looks like a picture is not Identifying a snake. They go by scale counts and location where the snake was found.

The thread is in general discussions, titled, Help identifying a snake

That's like showing a picture of a damn ball python and saying well prove it or it's not a ball python.. It was just completely obvious and another member agreed with exactly what I was saying and said the same thing.... That's exactly what it was there's no reason for me to explain it.

This is what another member said.

Originally Posted by raidcrasher

I totally agree. After 30 years and having seen thousands of these, my best guess is a obsoleta. Its just an experience thing.

You just did what you have accused me of doing!

Thanks for unknowingly using your self as an example for what you think I did.


At this point this should just stop, is it worth wasting any more time on this thread? Not really so can we just drop it's and move on?

[SSSSnakes]

Originally Posted by CrotalusR#1

That's like showing a picture of a damn ball python and saying well prove it or it's not a ball python.. It was just completely obvious and another member agreed with exactly what I was saying and said the same thing.... That's exactly what it was there's no reason for me to explain it.

This is what another member said.


You just did what you have accused me of doing!

Thanks for unknowingly using your self as an example for what you think I did.


At this point this should just stop, is it worth wasting any more time on this thread? Not really so can we just drop it's and move on?

You still have not proven that that snake is what you said it was. Just because you say it is and someone else agrees with you does not make it a fact. You had to make sure that people Googled the exact same picture as you, because other pictures may prove you wrong.

[CrotalusR#1]

Originally Posted by SSSSnakes

You still have not proven that that snake is what you said it was. Just because you say it is and someone else agrees with you does not make it a fact. You had to make sure that people Googled the exact same picture as you, because other pictures may prove you wrong.

Like I said it's a matter of Experience, I'm sure there are species that you know very well where it takes a quick glance to see exactly what it is. It's hard to point out every detail that makes it what it is because of the slight variations some ones gunna do a google images search and say well bla bla... But this debate isn't about that thread so we'll just leave it at that.

As far as this thread we are talking about. I will say I should have said maybe a few instead of plenty.. In my mined when I said plenty I was thinking 1 or 2 cases is plenty to show that it can and dose happen. So that is my bad.
Should have used the word few or couple vs plenty.

Plenty as in a couple being plenty. Know what I mean?

[CrotalusR#1]

I'm trying to find an overall statistic
Not one just basses out of the USA.

[Minkness]

You're just being an antagonizor now. =/