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Old 11-12-14, 03:58 PM   #1
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I totally get that and thank you for the concern, my point in all of this is that I didn't post these photos to get lessons, to get taught how to take care or handle or not get bit by my snakes..I posted these photos for fun its just a photo...Im ok with being bitten by my snakes..if anything..I like the feeling.
But, they way I care for my snakes...Im happy with it. I didnt need lectures haha just wanted to post a photo..If I need help I ask for it ..If you guys want to help me so bad go check out my other post where I found a lump on my snake and wasnt sure what it was..I dont know if the way I write sounds rude but im not trying to be rude..I really appreciate the effort its just not what I posted these pics for
That thread has been responded to 3 times now and you haven't been back. All three have given the same advice by the way.

As for judgement on husbandry I don't personally care aslong as the animal isn't being harmed or could negatively be affected. Your animals, your decision on how you want to handle them and how you want to feed them. As Matt said, if you're fine with the extra effort then by all means, go forth.

The part of the message that I think other people are trying to convey to you is the posting of these pictures and a few of your comments. I know and everyone else knows they weren't posted in malice or in a negative manner.
However, our hobby is constantly under attack by law makers and other agencies looking to take or limit our passions.

Saying stuff like you enjoy the feeling of being bit and the pictures where you easily could have lost an eye to a species of snake that everyone claims as "No danger to humans." is not really helping our cause. It's putting more ammo into the hands of those who oppose us.
As a reptile keeper we all understand our snakes but the general public doesn't so we need to put the other shoe on the other foot on and look at things from how they would view it.
I know it's a lot to ask but we all have a small bit of responsibilty to the hobby/community as a whole that we all hold dear to put our best foot forward and ensure the world sees us as the responsible keepers that we are.
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Saying stuff like you enjoy the feeling of being bit and the pictures where you easily could have lost an eye to a species of snake that everyone claims as "No danger to humans." is not really helping our cause. It's putting more ammo into the hands of those who oppose us.
As a reptile keeper we all understand our snakes but the general public doesn't so we need to put the other shoe on the other foot on and look at things from how they would view it.
I know it's a lot to ask but we all have a small bit of responsibilty to the hobby/community as a whole that we all hold dear to put our best foot forward and ensure the world sees us as the responsible keepers that we are.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Old 11-13-14, 05:29 AM   #3
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!

Just my 2 cent on all of this.

First, threads like this (as meant by the OP, so for the fun of seeing/posting bites) is plain stupid. Yes, i've taken pics of my 2 bites too and posted them on FB in a group, but as a warning to those who asked how Morelia viridis are. So i do agree that those threads should not be opened for any reason but to teach how to react (i.e. do not pull arm or whatever away). Also, i do agree that showing them to outsiders can go both ways, but yes, they should know it can happen.

As for the feeding outside or inside, i don't think there is A good way here. I started out feeding outside, but as said got bitten by my gtp's. Why did i do it? Coz i was told to, so that the snake 'knows' it will be fed and won't bite... With reading and learning more about snakes, i changed to feeding in their enclosure (i do not only have gtp's, also boa, burm,balls and spilota...) and nothing changed to their behavior. The gtp's still are nasty and all the others are sweeties

On the other hand, being bitten is not always a beginners mistake i think. I am very careful with doing anything in the ftp enclosure, but man they are fast as hell. It is true though that i learned not to do much or anything in the enclosure after lights go out, coz then they really are feisty

Lastly, i think its disturbing that you enjoy seeing those bites tbh...
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Just my 2 cent on all of this.

First, threads like this (as meant by the OP, so for the fun of seeing/posting bites) is plain stupid. Yes, i've taken pics of my 2 bites too and posted them on FB in a group, but as a warning to those who asked how Morelia viridis are. So i do agree that those threads should not be opened for any reason but to teach how to react (i.e. do not pull arm or whatever away). Also, i do agree that showing them to outsiders can go both ways, but yes, they should know it can happen.

As for the feeding outside or inside, i don't think there is A good way here. I started out feeding outside, but as said got bitten by my gtp's. Why did i do it? Coz i was told to, so that the snake 'knows' it will be fed and won't bite... With reading and learning more about snakes, i changed to feeding in their enclosure (i do not only have gtp's, also boa, burm,balls and spilota...) and nothing changed to their behavior. The gtp's still are nasty and all the others are sweeties

On the other hand, being bitten is not always a beginners mistake i think. I am very careful with doing anything in the ftp enclosure, but man they are fast as hell. It is true though that i learned not to do much or anything in the enclosure after lights go out, coz then they really are feisty

Lastly, i think its disturbing that you enjoy seeing those bites tbh...
Ok, good for you. Disturbing? Relax, I dont enjoy looking at venoumous bites that someone lost a leg over..Its not some weird fetish..I just like seeing snakes bite. Shoot me.
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Ok, good for you. Disturbing? Relax, I dont enjoy looking at venoumous bites that someone lost a leg over..Its not some weird fetish..I just like seeing snakes bite. Shoot me.
Play nice now Emma. You can't criticsize someone's opinion on what they find disturbing if you're asking others to not criticsize yours.
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Play nice now Emma. You can't criticsize someone's opinion on what they find disturbing if you're asking others to not criticsize yours.
What goes around comes around.
I'm very nice.
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Ok, good for you. Disturbing? Relax, I dont enjoy looking at venoumous bites that someone lost a leg over..Its not some weird fetish..I just like seeing snakes bite. Shoot me.
If you look at my name you can see a belgian flag, so you could know that english is not my main language and 'disturbing' is the best i could find to describe what i thought of it. Maybe that word is a bit heavy, but that i do not know for sure. I just wanted to say that i don't think it's very healthy to have an abnormal interest in getting bitten or watch those bites...

Otherwise, i'm very relaxed. Thank you

I hope most can understand i'm doing the best i can with typing english as good as possible.
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If you look at my name you can see a belgian flag, so you could know that english is not my main language and 'disturbing' is the best i could find to describe what i thought of it. Maybe that word is a bit heavy, but that i do not know for sure. I just wanted to say that i don't think it's very healthy to have an abnormal interest in getting bitten or watch those bites...
I would say disturbing is the perfect word for it, haha. I thought it was disturbing too
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I would say disturbing is the perfect word for it, haha. I thought it was disturbing too
Its really not..? See what I said in reply to David. Sorry I dont know how to really reply to two people on this yet
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If you look at my name you can see a belgian flag, so you could know that english is not my main language and 'disturbing' is the best i could find to describe what i thought of it. Maybe that word is a bit heavy, but that i do not know for sure. I just wanted to say that i don't think it's very healthy to have an abnormal interest in getting bitten or watch those bites...

Otherwise, i'm very relaxed. Thank you

I hope most can understand i'm doing the best i can with typing english as good as possible.
Lol, your english is good..I get what you were trying to say. I guess some people think its weird. I don't find it disturbing. Again, I'm not looking at photos that are "disturbing" like ripped up and you know..ugly. I'm talking about photos like the second one I posted. Is that photo disturbing?
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Lol, your english is good..I get what you were trying to say. I guess some people think its weird. I don't find it disturbing. Again, I'm not looking at photos that are "disturbing" like ripped up and you know..ugly. I'm talking about photos like the second one I posted. Is that photo disturbing?
No, it's most definitely not. But, when opening a thread with this title, it could have gotten worse, with pretty nasty bite wound pictures. Because yes, there are others who photograph these and post them
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That thread has been responded to 3 times now and you haven't been back. All three have given the same advice by the way.

As for judgement on husbandry I don't personally care aslong as the animal isn't being harmed or could negatively be affected. Your animals, your decision on how you want to handle them and how you want to feed them. As Matt said, if you're fine with the extra effort then by all means, go forth.

The part of the message that I think other people are trying to convey to you is the posting of these pictures and a few of your comments. I know and everyone else knows they weren't posted in malice or in a negative manner.
However, our hobby is constantly under attack by law makers and other agencies looking to take or limit our passions.

Saying stuff like you enjoy the feeling of being bit and the pictures where you easily could have lost an eye to a species of snake that everyone claims as "No danger to humans." is not really helping our cause. It's putting more ammo into the hands of those who oppose us.
As a reptile keeper we all understand our snakes but the general public doesn't so we need to put the other shoe on the other foot on and look at things from how they would view it.
I know it's a lot to ask but we all have a small bit of responsibilty to the hobby/community as a whole that we all hold dear to put our best foot forward and ensure the world sees us as the responsible keepers that we are.

I dont mind being bit..I dont crave it. lol. I'm still sticking with my thoughts.
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I dont mind being bit..I dont crave it. lol. I'm still sticking with my thoughts.
It's your right to do so. I posted my thoughts on the big picture not just for you but for other readers to see it and realize we can't sit around in our basements and pray that "it will all blow over." The government isn't coming anymore. It's here. Reasons why we have USARK and CanHERP organizations now.
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