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Old 11-10-14, 01:36 PM   #31
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i never said you starve your snake. I said that was a hunger bite. You knowing the snake was hungry and still held it, was again a beginner mistake.
once again... its not a beginner mistake. I dont feed my snakes in their cage.
Are they supposed to fly to their food? I take them there, which means I HAVE to hold them.
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Old 11-10-14, 01:39 PM   #32
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We like to have fun as well. But how do you think it would look to a parent checking out the forum, trying to determine if they want their child to get a snake. I think that kind of picture would deter them from allowing their child from keeping snakes. No one was posting comments to be rude, only to keep snake keeping on a positive outlook to the public and not a negative.
People aren't stupid, they know snakes bite. I wouldn't be the reason for that. All she has to do it Google snake bites and she will see a 100's of photos 10X worse than mine. And if that "mother" doesn't want to look at snake bites, then she shouldn't have clicked on the threat that was titles post photos of snake bites.
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Old 11-10-14, 01:43 PM   #33
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Personally I'd rather parents see pics of what can happen when owning a snake. It's much better to deter a parent than have yet another unwanted snake on craigslist, or worse, released into the wild.
Exactly! You know how many people asked me if I was going to release my snake to the wild, or kill her because she bit me!!!! What? Why? Imagine all the parents that would do that. So many people think ball pythons don't ever bite. Sh** happens, and They do! My pictures are proof.
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i see your points, but i don't see myself as a recruiter to the hobby. My goal is to be informative and let people make wise decisions. Football is a good analogy. I'll bet there are football blogs or forums with threads of awesome hits. I'll also bet there are those who think that hits shouldn't get highlighted because it provides ammo for people trying to add more safety restrictions. I think it's unrealistic to think that injuries won't happen in football, just like it's unrealistic to say a new snake owner will never get bit.

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Better to teach appropriate snake handling and prevent these bites from happening. I wonder how the OP would have felt if the snake would have blinded the eye permanently. If she would never had been able to see out of that eye again. Would that have been a cool picture? Do we teach our children to play football, by showing them pictures of paralyzed players that got hurt play football, or do we teach the the positive aspects of the game.
If I was blinded I wouldn't have time for a "cool" photo. There you go assuming again. lol. Just because I wasn't hurt and wanted a memory of the aftermath doesn't mean I'm trying to be cool. You're taking this way to seriously. Just chill. A couple photos wasn't going to change everyone minds about owning a snake. Actually, before I got a snake I would YouTube snakes biting their owners just to see their reactions and how bad it was. To see if I could handle it. After I watched that one guy with the ball python latched on his hand forever..my little mbk was like a breeze. The photo of my eye actually showed a lot of people I know that its not that big of a deal to get bit by a snake. It also showed them not to hold it near the face..even though she was just around my neck. It happens. When she rest her head on my eye..my hands were busy, there was nothing I could do. once again.
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Old 11-10-14, 07:14 PM   #36
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once again... its not a beginner mistake. I dont feed my snakes in their cage.
Are they supposed to fly to their food? I take them there, which means I HAVE to hold them.
99% of experienced snake owners will tell you feeding outside of the enclosure is a beginner mistake. It teaches snakes to expect food when brought out. No one is jumping all over you. Just trying to explain how certain things can have a negative impact on our hobby. Snake bites happen. Even the most experienced snakeowners get bit. Which is why holding one in striking range of your face is a mistake.
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once again... its not a beginner mistake. I dont feed my snakes in their cage.
Are they supposed to fly to their food? I take them there, which means I HAVE to hold them.
Feeding inside the enclosure will do absolutely nothing to keep you from being bit, even from a feeding response bite. I feed all my snakes in their enclosures and I've been bitten enough times to count on one hand in the 8 years I've been keeping snakes. Excluding when I was feeding my boa constrictor outside the enclosure, when I got bit quite often. You do a lot of other stuff than open the enclosure doors to feed them (change water, pick up refuse, handle them, etc.), why would they only associate the doors opening with food?

Mistakes do happen, we're only human. But putting a snake in the middle of shed around your neck is a beginner mistake. I don't do that even with my ball python. If I handle them while they're in shed, it's to work their bedding, and they're either put into a bucket, or set on the ground or bed where I can watch them.

It's not about whether or not snakes bite, but how it's being portrayed. Saying snakes bite and you should take the proper precautions is quite different than "hur dur I got bit by my snake how cool is that?" It just doesn't paint us in a very good light, as has been stated several times.
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Old 11-10-14, 08:34 PM   #38
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once again... its not a beginner mistake. I dont feed my snakes in their cage.
Are they supposed to fly to their food? I take them there, which means I HAVE to hold them.
Unfortunately that is a beginner mistake right there. Feeding snakes inside their enclosure doesn't make them aggressive or "bitey."
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Old 11-11-14, 02:38 AM   #39
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99% of experienced snake owners will tell you feeding outside of the enclosure is a beginner mistake. It teaches snakes to expect food when brought out. No one is jumping all over you. Just trying to explain how certain things can have a negative impact on our hobby. Snake bites happen. Even the most experienced snakeowners get bit. Which is why holding one in striking range of your face is a mistake.
Its not a mistake. It how I choose to feed them. I've been doing it since day one and i am used to it. Thats nobodys business but mine.. lol theres not mistake there. and I repeat once again she was on my neck I was't holding her in my face..Its also my choice to put my snake around my neck its not illegal and its not a mistake...if you think about it that way just holding a snake is a risk then. So I dont get why everyones trying to teach me a lesson lol
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Feeding inside the enclosure will do absolutely nothing to keep you from being bit, even from a feeding response bite. I feed all my snakes in their enclosures and I've been bitten enough times to count on one hand in the 8 years I've been keeping snakes. Excluding when I was feeding my boa constrictor outside the enclosure, when I got bit quite often. You do a lot of other stuff than open the enclosure doors to feed them (change water, pick up refuse, handle them, etc.), why would they only associate the doors opening with food?

Mistakes do happen, we're only human. But putting a snake in the middle of shed around your neck is a beginner mistake. I don't do that even with my ball python. If I handle them while they're in shed, it's to work their bedding, and they're either put into a bucket, or set on the ground or bed where I can watch them.

It's not about whether or not snakes bite, but how it's being portrayed. Saying snakes bite and you should take the proper precautions is quite different than "hur dur I got bit by my snake how cool is that?" It just doesn't paint us in a very good light, as has been stated several times.
I don't feed them out of the cage just so they don't bite me any other time I reach in. Its become a habit and i'm happy with the way I feed them..I don't have to feed them in their cages...
ok, I don't know why people aren't reading my scenarios correctly, my snake wasn't in shed when she was around my neck, I was just changing her water.
My SECOND photo she got out of shed so i was about to feed her. I never handle them when they are in shed...I didn't post these photos to get a lesson on taking care of my snakes. If I need advice I ask for it.
and for that comment "hur dur I got bit by my snake how cool is that?" thats also a little harsh. read carefully and understand that i'm not trying to be cool here lol. Its just a photo. Damn.
I'm not trying to be rude but its a little disrespectful to me because I'm not doing anything wrong and everyone is assuming I am.
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Unfortunately that is a beginner mistake right there. Feeding snakes inside their enclosure doesn't make them aggressive or "bitey."
read my previous post please
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Old 11-11-14, 06:51 AM   #42
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hey emma...you've heard the saying "there's an easy way and there's a hard way", right? i think that's all we are saying. you feed in another enclosure (and a lot of people do), it's just another unnecessary step. end result is the same = fed snake. just extra steps. sometimes included in those extra steps are more opportunities for contact with teeth. maybe it will happen, maybe it won't. if you're ok with those odds, then enjoy the extra effort.

similarly, i think at some point we have all draped a snake around our necks. 99.99999% nothing will happen. but (as you found out) there is a potential for something bad (and it could've been catastrophic if your snake actually bit your eye). i know that the likelihood is prob low, but personally, i don't wanna lose an eye. i don't want sutures on the face. so, i direct my snake's head away from my head when they are out of their enclosure. i don't multi-task with a roaming snake head close to my face.

sometimes the way we do things may not be wrong per se, but often our husbandry/habits/etc, could be fine tuned. i've received tons of info from members here that has positively impacted how i care for and handle my animals and i've kept snakes for well over 30 yrs. don't view it as an attack, simply look at it as "there may be an easier way"...
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hey emma...you've heard the saying "there's an easy way and there's a hard way", right? i think that's all we are saying. you feed in another enclosure (and a lot of people do), it's just another unnecessary step. end result is the same = fed snake. just extra steps. sometimes included in those extra steps are more opportunities for contact with teeth. maybe it will happen, maybe it won't. if you're ok with those odds, then enjoy the extra effort.

similarly, i think at some point we have all draped a snake around our necks. 99.99999% nothing will happen. but (as you found out) there is a potential for something bad (and it could've been catastrophic if your snake actually bit your eye). i know that the likelihood is prob low, but personally, i don't wanna lose an eye. i don't want sutures on the face. so, i direct my snake's head away from my head when they are out of their enclosure. i don't multi-task with a roaming snake head close to my face.

sometimes the way we do things may not be wrong per se, but often our husbandry/habits/etc, could be fine tuned. i've received tons of info from members here that has positively impacted how i care for and handle my animals and i've kept snakes for well over 30 yrs. don't view it as an attack, simply look at it as "there may be an easier way"...
+1 and not just easier, but more efficient.
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It how I choose to feed them. I've been doing it since day one and i am used to it. Thats nobodys business but mine..
When it comes to husbandry, it's okay for more experienced people to criticize your practices. It's not just you involved, but also your animals.

Besides, no one is telling you not to feed in a separate enclosure, so don't take it as people telling you what to do. They are just explaining how there is no point in feeding outside the enclosure. "That's bad" and "don't do it" are two different things.
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A bite to the face with a snake around your neck, means you don't understand snakes. Snakes naturally strike at the face, because they have a natural instinct to stop the prey from fighting back. If the prey is grabbed by the face it prevents the prey from biting the snake. If you have a defensive snake like a tree snake it will zero in on your face and wait for the right time to strike at you. A spitting cobra will not spit venom at your body, it waits until it has a shot at your face.

People our offering advise, you can learn from them or you can let yourself be bit again. When we were young we all thought we knew it all, until we gained experience and found out how little we really knew.
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