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Old 10-27-14, 03:51 PM   #1
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats

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Cosmic, the type of hunting you're referring to "persistance hunting" is only used by ONE culture today, and they're in Africa where it's easier for them to chase down their food for 8-10 hours while it dies of exhaustion than it is to risk losing a valuable weapon by throwing it. This doesn't make it a "better" way to hunt, in fact the animal suffers quite a bit during this process but the people of that culture respect their sacrafice so their families can eat! However this is not by definition "Natural hunting" in fact, all hunting is natural, hunting is hunting. You seem to humanize and very inhuman thing. Apes use tools to get their termites, is this not natural? How is this any different than us using a tool to hunt something? The edge humans have over other animals is our intellegence, our ability to look at something and figure out a way to solve the problem with a little effort as possible. and to answer this post, yes killing a Deer in your backyard and in the forest are the same to me, as long as the law see it the same way then it shouldn't matter.
I think this argument has become a bit semantic. I'm not saying that hunting isn't natural, or that making/using tools isn't natural human behavior. I'm arguing against the idea that humans can't hunt without tools. But if we're going to argue about what is or isn't "natural" then we have to define what "natural" means. It's a concept that has all but lost it's meaning in modern society.

I'm saying that persistence hunting is the "natural" method of hunting for humans because it is a task that we were adapted to preform in our native environment. It's a method of hunting that requires the barest of technology that any human could develop. Not utilizing a weapon that was developed by countless humans over centuries of technological development. I doubt that most hunters who use a gun or a crossbow would be able to build even the simplest versions of the highly advanced weapons they use.
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Old 10-27-14, 04:33 PM   #2
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I. I doubt that most hunters who use a gun or a crossbow would be able to build even the simplest versions of the highly advanced weapons they use.
I agree with this statement. But that extends to pretty much all aspects of life in modern society. How many people could accomplish even the most basic of human needs if left to fend for themselves? Fire by friction? Doubt it. Gathering wild edibles or growing crops? Might take a while and even then many would get sick and possibly die from misidentified plants or fungi. How about just getting clean drinking water? These are all tasks that not long ago were common knowledge, yet now most people would be $h*t outta luck if they had to provide these things for themselves or there family. We(most people) depend on modern conveniences to go about our day to day lives. Hunting is no different.
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Old 10-27-14, 05:34 PM   #3
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I think this argument has become a bit semantic. I'm not saying that hunting isn't natural, or that making/using tools isn't natural human behavior. I'm arguing against the idea that humans can't hunt without tools. But if we're going to argue about what is or isn't "natural" then we have to define what "natural" means. It's a concept that has all but lost it's meaning in modern society.

I'm saying that persistence hunting is the "natural" method of hunting for humans because it is a task that we were adapted to preform in our native environment. It's a method of hunting that requires the barest of technology that any human could develop. Not utilizing a weapon that was developed by countless humans over centuries of technological development. I doubt that most hunters who use a gun or a crossbow would be able to build even the simplest versions of the highly advanced weapons they use.
I think what they are getting at is that no matter what you use to hunt, hunting is still taking part in nature. Would persistence hunting be the only method of hunting considered natural? "Primitive" people all around the world use bows and arrows to catch arboreal animals, spears to catch seafood...etc. What would the natural way of catching fish be if not primitive archetypes of nets and spears?(and in some cases leaking poison into a lake to kill fish)

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