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Old 02-06-14, 07:36 AM   #16
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Re: Identify Snake Florida

I take back my suggestion. Although the head shape and even some of the markings look a lot like a Cottonmouth I'm pretty sure I was wrong now.

I think everyone saying Dusky Pigmy Rattlesnake is right. Take a look at what I noticed about the marking on the back of its head:



Also note that OP's snake has small spots just like the Pigmy Rattler (you can just make them out, possibly the snake was going into a shed) which is VERY different than the large markings on a Cottonmouth:

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Old 02-06-14, 09:27 AM   #17
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Re: Identify Snake Florida

Yeah the smaller spots and copper colored eyes much different than the cottonmouth.


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I take back my suggestion. Although the head shape and even some of the markings look a lot like a Cottonmouth I'm pretty sure I was wrong now.

I think everyone saying Dusky Pigmy Rattlesnake is right. Take a look at what I noticed about the marking on the back of its head:



Also note that OP's snake has small spots just like the Pigmy Rattler (you can just make them out, possibly the snake was going into a shed) which is VERY different than the large markings on a Cottonmouth:

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Old 02-06-14, 12:08 PM   #18
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Re: Identify Snake Florida

Once you look at enough varied pictures of different venomous species you are able to tell the difference quite quickly. I'm lucky that I've had enough time on my hands over the years to sit and browse hundreds upon hundreds of google images of different species, comparing the different regional variations and colour differences.

From an evolutionary perspective, cottonmouths and pygmy rattlers are more alike than you might think. Not only because they tend to occupy the same (ish) region of the world - with similar threats and temperatures etc etc... so the physical adaptations they have made to live in their respective environment/s are fairly similar - hence it is no surprise that they might look similar too.

By comparison: there is no mistaking a desert snake from a jungle snake, for example.

These two species of snakes we are talking about here are distantly related... there is no doubt about that. At some point in time, maybe hundreds of thousands of years ago, they may have been one and the same species which split off a single genetic line.

You can barely hear a pygmy rattlesnakes rattle... because it is so small. Sometimes it is almost impossible to hear. So poking it with a stick to see if it rattled might not be a great option. Just FYI.

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Old 02-06-14, 12:14 PM   #19
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You can barely hear a pygmy rattlesnakes rattle... because it is so small. Sometimes it is almost impossible to hear. So poking it with a stick to see if it rattled might not be a great option. Just FYI.
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