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01-30-14, 03:48 PM
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Morelia Enjoyus Maximus
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Re: This is sick! Python breeder arrested in California
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what do you mean ''excuses''? people do not have to make excuses for being ill.
no one said it was ok, but that does not mean it was his fault or that he deserves to be demonized for it.
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Your assuming mental illness I am assuming apathy or lack of funds. I never once said anything against mental illness. Get your facts straight. Show me where a doctor has diagnosed this guy as mentally ill..... just because another user said he wasn't right is not mental illness. Ever considered they guy just messed up? Apparently thinking that way would be crazy
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01-30-14, 03:53 PM
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Re: This is sick! Python breeder arrested in California
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Your assuming mental illness I am assuming apathy or lack of funds. I never once said anything against mental illness. Get your facts straight. Show me where a doctor has diagnosed this guy as mentally ill..... just because another user said he wasn't right is not mental illness. Ever considered they guy just messed up? Apparently thinking that way would be crazy 
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depression is a form of mental illness. as is hoarding (form of obsessive compulsive)
So let's assume it was funds. Why would he allow all of the decaying animals lay around his house and live like that. No one is condoning what happened, but truly no one in their right mind would live in such a way.
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01-30-14, 03:55 PM
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Re: This is sick! Python breeder arrested in California
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Your assuming mental illness I am assuming apathy or lack of funds. I never once said anything against mental illness. Get your facts straight. Show me where a doctor has diagnosed this guy as mentally ill..... just because another user said he wasn't right is not mental illness. Ever considered they guy just messed up? Apparently thinking that way would be crazy 
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did you even read the article?
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01-30-14, 04:00 PM
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Morelia Enjoyus Maximus
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Re: This is sick! Python breeder arrested in California
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did you even read the article?
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Yes....did you?
Are all breeders hoarders or mentally ill. I know two people with that many snakes...should we commit them?
No one in their right mind would rape and kill a child but sane people do stuff like this.
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01-30-14, 04:07 PM
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Re: This is sick! Python breeder arrested in California
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Yes....did you?
Are all breeders hoarders or mentally ill. I know two people with that many snakes...should we commit them?
No one in their right mind would rape and kill a child but sane people do stuff like this.
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No, all that let animals rot and decompose for months in their house most likely are though.
And I think there are people in their right mind who murder for alternate motivations.
Are there people who murder because they are crazy? Absolutely. Does that mean they shouldn't be punished? No. I don't think anyone is saying action doesn't need to be taken.
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01-30-14, 04:10 PM
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Re: This is sick! Python breeder arrested in California
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depression is a form of mental illness.
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Depression is a state of mind that anyone can experience.
Every single human being on this planet or any other for that matter has been depressed at some point or another, Wife just left, husband just died, cat run over by a car, etc..
Chronic depression is a mental illness.
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01-30-14, 04:12 PM
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Re: This is sick! Python breeder arrested in California
Can we NOT try and diagnose this guy??
If we are going to start fighting over some unfortunate situation, trying to play arm chair psychologist, I will close the thread and save the trouble now.
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01-30-14, 04:29 PM
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Re: This is sick! Python breeder arrested in California
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Can we NOT try and diagnose this guy??
If we are going to start fighting over some unfortunate situation, trying to play arm chair psychologist, I will close the thread and save the trouble now.
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My point exactly Wayne. Thanks.
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01-30-14, 04:45 PM
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Re: This is sick! Python breeder arrested in California
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Originally Posted by infernalis
Depression is a state of mind that anyone can experience.
Every single human being on this planet or any other for that matter has been depressed at some point or another, Wife just left, husband just died, cat run over by a car, etc..
Chronic depression is a mental illness.
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how long do you think it would take for that many snakes to die and decompose? it certainly didnt happen in a few weeks.
regardless, depression is mental illness, whether it is acute or chronic is irrelevant, both can have an equally devastating effects on a persons life.
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Originally Posted by infernalis
Can we NOT try and diagnose this guy??
If we are going to start fighting over some unfortunate situation, trying to play arm chair psychologist, I will close the thread and save the trouble now.
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the article brought up the subject of his mothers death and the roll it may have played in the situation, it is an important part of the discussion.
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01-30-14, 05:12 PM
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Re: This is sick! Python breeder arrested in California
I think Reginald Denny said it best. "Can't we all just get along?" LOL!!! I hope I'm not the only one old enough to remember that!!!
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01-30-14, 05:24 PM
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Re: This is sick! Python breeder arrested in California
I can't imagine caring for 400 snakes myself. I don't think I could do it with my day job. I'd imagine it being a full time job caring for that many snakes.
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01-31-14, 11:24 AM
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Re: This is sick! Python breeder arrested in California
It is, I know a breeder out here who has at least that many, and I am not just talking about hatchling season!! I took my fiance up there once when I was picking out my Mohave, he asked the breeder what he does for a living, the breeder said "I breed snakes!!" DEFINATELY a full time job for sure!!
Even with my collection, I come home from my F/T job, get my son fed, bathed and in bed and then spend at least an hr on my snakes.
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01-31-14, 04:58 PM
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Re: This is sick! Python breeder arrested in California
lol snakefood i read that at 'i come home from my frozen/thawed job....
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01-31-14, 05:58 PM
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Re: This is sick! Python breeder arrested in California
Holy ****. That's insane. The guy should of definitely re-homed those poor snakes
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02-01-14, 02:25 AM
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Re: This is sick! Python breeder arrested in California
We had a similar case over here a year or two ago but not as severe and the woman has just been to court over it. Punishment, a ban from keeping reptiles for a year and a £250 fine. That'll teach her.......
PICTURES: Woman banned from keeping snakes after admitting causing unnecessary suffering (From York Press)
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