Night Nile update

[murrindindi]

Originally Posted by Sublimeballs

I agree, I felt that subject had been touched on fairly well by others. No monitor should be kept in a wire cage period. No means of holding humidity or heat in. And to say they require a basking spot of over a hundred, yeah 40 degrees over 100. I haven't followed these night niles at all how old are they?

I used to keep some of my monitors in outdoor "aviary" type enclosures in Oz (plastic coated steel wire in part), and obviously if anyone`s living where the conditions are similar to those in the wild, that type can work (at least during the warmer periods).
I`m not familiar with (his?) company, I`m living in the U.K at this time.
I have no idea how old that particular Nile is but it certainly looks big enough to be sexually mature (around a metre?), clearly nowhere suitable for nesting, let alone living healthily whether male or female.
My username on youtube is "ornatusvaranid" I left a couple more comments earlier, I doubt he`ll respond... I noticed we are now back to Varanids maiming and (killing?) by bacteria, according to this "expert"?? Does he actually have a t.v show in America?

[Sublimeballs]

Originally Posted by murrindindi

I used to keep some of my monitors in outdoor "aviary" type enclosures in Oz (plastic coated steel wire in part), and obviously if anyone`s living where the conditions are similar to those in the wild, that type can work (at least during the warmer periods).
I`m not familiar with (his?) company, I`m living in the U.K at this time.
I have no idea how old that particular Nile is but it certainly looks big enough to be sexually mature (around a metre?), clearly nowhere suitable for nesting, let alone living healthily whether male or female.
My username on youtube is "ornatusvaranid" I left a couple more comments earlier, I doubt he`ll respond... I noticed we are now back to Varanids maiming and (killing?) by bacteria, according to this "expert"?? Does he actually have a t.v show in America?

Ok maybe I shouldn't have said no wire mesh cages period, if your in the proper climate with an outdoor enclosure that's another story.

No he doesn't have a tv show here in the states, just a YouTube show. Wouldn't surprise me if animal planet wanted to give him a show tho,lol. Our animal based programming has really gone down hill since the 90s.

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by Sublimeballs

Our animal based programming has really gone down hill since the 90s.

Stick with public broadcasting abd BBC

I'll take quality over quantity any day.

[Hannibalcanibal]

Originally Posted by infernalis

Stick with public broadcasting abd BBC

I'll take quality over quantity any day.

^this.....

Also, we can try to get word out about this, but the issue is that his audience is so large and we're just one forum... When every other place those new to reptiles congregate (i.e ten gallons with a thin layer of wood chips for a foot long savannah monitor on youtube) is crawling with under-educated "reptile lovers" who eat up bad care information like candy, especially if it's coming from a big youtube show.

Only issue is, people always tend to look past the people saying "this is wrong" if there is a big youtube guy with thousands of snakes and his own website, (start sarcasm) then the youtube guy has to be right, i mean, he has his own show and stuff, right? RIGHT? (sarcasm ended)

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by Hannibalcanibal

^this.....

Also, we can try to get word out about this, but the issue is that his audience is so large and we're just one forum... When every other place those new to reptiles congregate (i.e ten gallons with a thin layer of wood chips for a foot long savannah monitor on youtube) is crawling with under-educated "reptile lovers" who eat up bad care information like candy, especially if it's coming from a big youtube show.

Only issue is, people always tend to look past the people saying "this is wrong" if there is a big youtube guy with thousands of snakes and his own website, (start sarcasm) then the youtube guy has to be right, i mean, he has his own show and stuff, right? RIGHT? (sarcasm ended)

I can ALMOST excuse LLL when they had a video on youtube claiming to be a "starter setup" but nowhere did the video mention this, nor did it clearly indicate that "starter" meant for about the first week.

It was an aquarium, screen top, dome light, wood chips setup.

I whined about it all over the net until one day I was asked to stop and the video disappeared.

Brian on the other hand clearly states that he's had these lizards a long while now, so he's promoting his version of long term (A.K.A. permanent) housing to impressionable young people, many who fail to engage the common sense side of their brains, They will just copy without thinking anything through.