Gender Consciousness

[red ink]

Originally Posted by lady_bug87

I was referring to the average hobbyist,

Like I said I think its interesting. And I see waay too many naked pictures publically posted by young women in this hobby to feel that there isnt some kind of stereotype involved.

I think outbursts like that have an effect on how ALL women are received

What's nudity got to do with respect... in reverse what's sharp clothing got to do with respect?

Respect is earned regardless of the amount of clothing male or female.

Are you asking if naked pics are damaging the image of women in the hobby?

The answer to that is yes - but only if the person looking is a backward chauvanist numb nut... the rest of us that don't equate your status/respect to your image and the ability you have in keeping animals... nudity is icing on the cake.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by red ink

What's nudity got to do with respect... in reverse what's sharp clothing got to do with respect?

Respect is earned regardless of the amount of clothing male or female.

Are you asking if naked pics are damaging the image of women in the hobby?

The answer to that is yes - but only if the person looking is a backward chauvanist numb nut... the rest of us that don't equate your status/respect to your image and the ability you have in keeping animals... nudity is icing on the cake.

Image is a lot. If the first thing I happen to see of a newly joined member is nudity I've already begun to form an impression of them. We all do it. It takes 5 seconds in meeting someone to make an impression.

Jerry made good points.

I think it's sad that women generally hide themselves online and when they do post pictures. Maybe just holding a snake or other reptile and some guy does what Jerry says "oh there's a reptile in that pic?" It turns it sexual and we shouldn't do that. I'm sure it's nice to get a compliment but at the same time I'm sure those women would like to just be equal in that moment.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Image is a lot. If the first thing I happen to see of a newly joined member is nudity I've already begun to form an impression of them. We all do it. It takes 5 seconds in meeting someone to make an impression.

Jerry made good points.

I think it's sad that women generally hide themselves online and when they do post pictures. Maybe just holding a snake or other reptile and some guy does what Jerry says "oh there's a reptile in that pic?" It turns it sexual and we shouldn't do that. I'm sure it's nice to get a compliment but at the same time I'm sure those women would like to just be equal in that moment.

I agree with your last paragraph. It's just skin. Being nude doesn't always need to be sexualized. It's the men who sexualize everything that should be looked down upon, not women for showing some skin.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by Mikoh4792

I agree with your last paragraph. It's just skin. Being nude doesn't always need to be sexualized. It's the men who sexualize everything that should be looked down upon, not women for showing some skin.

No? I shouldn't blame the women who show series of nude pics on other forums? No guy said they HAD to take them or put them up.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

No? I shouldn't blame the women who show series of nude pics on other forums? No guy said they HAD to take them or put them up.

Yeah so they want to show off their body so what? It doesn't make me think less of someone. I don't mean this politically but I think it's a very traditional or conservative way of thinking to demonize nudity. Again, it's just skin. Nothing fancy, nothing bad either. There are civilizations in this world where women walk around with their money makers hanging out all day, and where the men wear nothing but a horn over their genitals. It's nothing to sexualize unless you're a pervert. People get too threatened by bare skin.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by Mikoh4792

Yeah so they want to show off their body so what? It doesn't make me think less of someone. I don't mean this politically but I think it's a very traditional or conservative way of thinking to demonize nudity. Again, it's just skin. Nothing fancy, nothing bad either. There are civilizations in this world where women walk around with their money makers hanging out all day, and where the men wear nothing but a horn over their genitals. It's nothing to sexualize unless you're a pervert. People get too threatened by bare skin.

I think this is now getting too personal in opinion. I don't care about bare skin. It isn't the point.

The point Lori was trying to make was are these women actually hurting the image of women as a whole in the hobby? It's about broad spectrum and not individual acts they do or don't do.

I'd say yes.


Also for the record, I doubt you'd think so highly of a woman if she were dating your son and was a prostitute or a stripper. Or if your daughter had these positions.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Also for the record, I doubt you'd think so highly of a woman if she were dating your son and was a prostitute or a stripper. Or if your daughter had these positions.

LOL for the record.

Why would you even say that? That has nothing to do with nudity. Nudity in itself is not sexual. It is simply the act of not wearing clothing. Prostitution is fundamentally sexual. Why you would even equate them confuses me. They are different topics.