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07-31-13, 01:35 PM
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Re: Baby feeding questions
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Turns out, the only local place that sells live rodents at feeder prices doesn't have rats smaller than pups. So it looks like he will stay on mice for a bit.
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You can't order rats online?
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07-31-13, 02:37 PM
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Re: Baby feeding questions
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You can't order rats online?
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Wouldn't that be kind of pricey considering that this is my only snake and I visit that pet store about weekly for crickets for my chameleon and geckos?
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07-31-13, 02:49 PM
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Re: Baby feeding questions
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Wouldn't that be kind of pricey considering that this is my only snake and I visit that pet store about weekly for crickets for my chameleon and geckos?
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Didn't know.
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07-31-13, 02:56 PM
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Re: Baby feeding questions
Anyway, at this size, do you think he can handle a hopper or just fuzzies?
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07-31-13, 03:00 PM
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Re: Baby feeding questions
You could try a fuzzy for the first couple of meals then bump it up to hoppers. I know some people start there hatchlings on hoppers right away. You can make the call when you see the size of their fuzzys and hoppers at the pet shop. About the same size to 1 and 1/2 the diameter of the largest part of the snake. Carpets can take pretty decent size meals.
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07-31-13, 03:17 PM
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Re: Baby feeding questions
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Anyway, at this size, do you think he can handle a hopper or just fuzzies?
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I would go with fuzzies. Hoppers might be a bit big. That is what my 8-month old jungle eats. I have an Irian Jaya carpet about the same size as yours and it is currently on fuzzies, which leave a nice bulge after feeding.
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08-01-13, 01:44 PM
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Re: Baby feeding questions
Yeah, i got 2 fuzzies and put him in a small shoebox with one. They are the perfect size, but he would have nothing to do with them. So I put him back in his tank and i fed it to one of my leopard geckos, but I still have the extra one.
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08-01-13, 02:43 PM
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Re: Baby feeding questions
Why did you put him in a shoebox? Just feed him in the enclosure.
I know many people feed snakes in separate containers with success but I've found through personal experience that ambush snakes are more likely to eat in their own enclosure. The stress of picking your snake up and out of it's cage and then putting it into another box might stress it out before feeding.
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08-01-13, 03:08 PM
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Re: Baby feeding questions
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Why did you put him in a shoebox? Just feed him in the enclosure.
I know many people feed snakes in separate containers with success but I've found through personal experience that ambush snakes are more likely to eat in their own enclosure. The stress of picking your snake up and out of it's cage and then putting it into another box might stress it out before feeding.
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I did that because most people say that if you feed them in the enclosure, it can make them more aggressive. But if you say it's alright, I'll try again later tonight when he wakes up and starts to explore.
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08-01-13, 03:36 PM
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Re: Baby feeding questions
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I did that because most people say that if you feed them in the enclosure, it can make them more aggressive. But if you say it's alright, I'll try again later tonight when he wakes up and starts to explore.
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That is an old myth/rumor. The assumption was that the snake might associate the cage with feeding, so every time you open the cage(whether to handle it or take it out for cleaning), the snake might think your hand is food.
With that reasoning, you could also say the opposite for feeding in a separate container. Every time you take the snake out, it might associate being out of it's enclosure with feeding time. So when you are handling your snake it could also think your hand is food.
Many others and I have been feeding snakes in their own enclosures and none of them are aggressive during handling. They have never even tried to strike at me except for my adult cali king who already came to me very aggressive.(at 2 years old, so she's either an aggressive individual, or she's had a past that made her that way)
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08-01-13, 04:16 PM
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Re: Baby feeding questions
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That is an old myth/rumor. The assumption was that the snake might associate the cage with feeding, so every time you open the cage(whether to handle it or take it out for cleaning), the snake might think your hand is food.
With that reasoning, you could also say the opposite for feeding in a separate container. Every time you take the snake out, it might associate being out of it's enclosure with feeding time. So when you are handling your snake it could also think your hand is food.
Many others and I have been feeding snakes in their own enclosures and none of them are aggressive during handling. They have never even tried to strike at me except for my adult cali king who already came to me very aggressive.(at 2 years old, so she's either an aggressive individual, or she's had a past that made her that way)
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Then I'll definitely try feed him in there tonight when he starts to move around. Do you think i should try to dangle it in front of him or just throw it in and let him sniff it out. Also, speaking of kings, I saw a gorgeous 3' hypo brooksi at my local pet shop that I came within an inch of buying. Still considering it since I have a nice big outdoor cage and and live within its natural range. The main thing holding me back is a slightly steep price tag at $99.
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08-01-13, 04:30 PM
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Re: Baby feeding questions
Also, if he still doesn't eat, do you think exposing the brain would help in this situation?
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08-01-13, 05:19 PM
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Re: Baby feeding questions
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Then I'll definitely try feed him in there tonight when he starts to move around. Do you think i should try to dangle it in front of him or just throw it in and let him sniff it out. Also, speaking of kings, I saw a gorgeous 3' hypo brooksi at my local pet shop that I came within an inch of buying. Still considering it since I have a nice big outdoor cage and and live within its natural range. The main thing holding me back is a slightly steep price tag at $99.
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Also, if he still doesn't eat, do you think exposing the brain would help in this situation?
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I wouldn't try feeding him today. It could stress him out even more.
People on this forum advised me to try feeding my snake once a week until it would accept it. My snake did not eat for a whole month since I have gotten it and after trying once a week, it eventually grabbed the food and ate it. Now it is eating every week without failure.
The next time you try to feed your snake I would try dangling it to trigger a response, it works for most of my snakes. I only have one snake that will eat the food when it is left alone in the cage.
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08-01-13, 05:20 PM
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Re: Baby feeding questions
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Also, if he still doesn't eat, do you think exposing the brain would help in this situation?
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08-01-13, 05:20 PM
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Re: Baby feeding questions
Could you post a picture of your setup? What are your temps? What thermometers do you use exactly to measure these temps?
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