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07-24-13, 11:15 AM
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Re: Intelligence between different types of snakes
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[...] Colubrids are thought to have evolved after boids, with elapids and vipers developing from the colubrids as more efficient venom-delivery apparati were evolved. Thus, it would make sense that these animals are more "Intelligent" than boids- they have had more evolutionary pressure.
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The fact that colubrids have evolved after boids makes perfect sense in that regard. However, it still leaves us with the question of how we define intelligence for the sake of this discussion. Since I don't think that snakes are truly social, and intelligence cannot be inferred through social interaction, I would consider it largely the ability to adapt to a changing environment.
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07-24-13, 11:36 AM
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Re: Intelligence between different types of snakes
My JCP appears to watch TV from his perch. I'm not sure what about it intrigues him so much, but it is amusing to see. He extends himself out from the branch and just stares straight at it.
I don't know how much intelligence snakes really have, but there are times that their innate instincts impress me 100x more than the best trained dogs.
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07-24-13, 11:39 AM
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Re: Intelligence between different types of snakes
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My JCP appears to watch TV from his perch. I'm not sure what about it intrigues him so much, but it is amusing to see. He extends himself out from the branch and just stares straight at it.
I don't know how much intelligence snakes really have, but there are times that their innate instincts impress me 100x more than the best trained dogs.
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sometimes my corn will peek out of his hide and just stare at me using my laptop. Such a creeper.
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07-24-13, 11:53 AM
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Re: Intelligence between different types of snakes
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Originally Posted by ra94131
My JCP appears to watch TV from his perch. I'm not sure what about it intrigues him so much, but it is amusing to see. He extends himself out from the branch and just stares straight at it.
I don't know how much intelligence snakes really have, but there are times that their innate instincts impress me 100x more than the best trained dogs.
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What shows does he like? If he watches Dr. Who or Firefly I think we can infer more intelligence than if he watches The View.
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07-24-13, 02:20 PM
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Re: Intelligence between different types of snakes
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What shows does he like? If he watches Dr. Who or Firefly I think we can infer more intelligence than if he watches The View. 
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I so agree. Many of my snakes watch me when I am in the snake room. Some even go so far as to come out of the their hides. My Jag comes up to the glass and peeks out almost every day.
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07-24-13, 02:22 PM
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Re: Intelligence between different types of snakes
Why does this question continue to come up on this forum? Or some form of it.
It's like people say "Hmm, I haven't seen Aaron pissed off lately. How can I do this?" or "I haven't seen Aaron rant about this in awhile so let's make a thread."
If you want to know how smart snakes are just see any "aggressive" snake bash it's face off it's enclosure continually, never learning that there's a wall there that they can't get through...no matter how injured their face is.
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07-24-13, 02:46 PM
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Re: Intelligence between different types of snakes
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Originally Posted by Aaron_S
Why does this question continue to come up on this forum? Or some form of it.
It's like people say "Hmm, I haven't seen Aaron pissed off lately. How can I do this?" or "I haven't seen Aaron rant about this in awhile so let's make a thread."
If you want to know how smart snakes are just see any "aggressive" snake bash it's face off it's enclosure continually, never learning that there's a wall there that they can't get through...no matter how injured their face is.
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I guess it is kind of like asking which turtle runs the fastest.
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07-24-13, 03:40 PM
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Re: Intelligence between different types of snakes
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I guess it is kind of like asking which turtle runs the fastest.
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There are some fast turtles actually :P Soft shell comes to mind
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07-24-13, 04:23 PM
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Re: Intelligence between different types of snakes
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There are some fast turtles actually :P Soft shell comes to mind
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Noooooooooooo!!!
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07-24-13, 05:13 PM
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Re: Intelligence between different types of snakes
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Originally Posted by Aaron_S
Why does this question continue to come up on this forum? Or some form of it.
It's like people say "Hmm, I haven't seen Aaron pissed off lately. How can I do this?" or "I haven't seen Aaron rant about this in awhile so let's make a thread."
If you want to know how smart snakes are just see any "aggressive" snake bash it's face off it's enclosure continually, never learning that there's a wall there that they can't get through...no matter how injured their face is.
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I personally enjoy when you're all feisty
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07-24-13, 05:17 PM
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Re: Intelligence between different types of snakes
First word when I saw this thread..."anthropomorphism"
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07-24-13, 05:21 PM
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Re: Intelligence between different types of snakes
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Originally Posted by Aaron_S
Why does this question continue to come up on this forum? Or some form of it.
It's like people say "Hmm, I haven't seen Aaron pissed off lately. How can I do this?" or "I haven't seen Aaron rant about this in awhile so let's make a thread."
If you want to know how smart snakes are just see any "aggressive" snake bash it's face off it's enclosure continually, never learning that there's a wall there that they can't get through...no matter how injured their face is.
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Hamster = 1
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Snake = doesn't even know there's a test
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07-24-13, 05:29 PM
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Re: Intelligence between different types of snakes
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First word when I saw this thread..."anthropomorphism"
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Im not anthropomorphising snakes. Just trying to compare intelligence between different species.
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07-24-13, 07:47 PM
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Re: Intelligence between different types of snakes
I think the point is they are so dumb even the smartest of them are still stupid as wood.
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07-24-13, 07:52 PM
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Re: Intelligence between different types of snakes
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are still stupid as wood.
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lol
I agree. However, I still think it's interesting to compare the differences no matter how small they are. The differences are still there.
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