Littlefoot & Cera (New video & pictures) 2013!

[sweatshirt]

This thread was awesome to read =)

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by franks

Great pics wayne! Any more observations of altercations between the two guys?

They still bully and push each other. They did a tug of war with a chicken, got messy.

What I have observed though, they can take what they dish out. Just the other night Cera was climbing all over Littlefoot, Littlefoot decided enough was enough and turned on Cera.

Originally Posted by sweatshirt

This thread was awesome to read =)

Thank you...

[franks]

Interesting. I have a question but need to relate it to dogs to be understood: people who have kept dogs and have witnessed dog altercations can tell the difference between different types of dog fights. There is the jockeying for dominance, the escalated version of this which is a real fight, and then an all out fight for survival. How do your experiences with these two compare? I saw the one video where cera had littlefoot by the leg- any fear that these altercations can escalate into an all out fight for survival? I am pretty sure Daniel Bennett wrote that he believes combat is fairly common, but had no reason to suspect these lizards ever faught to the death, I just wonder how/if captivity changes that. Just curious- I have no access to anyone that has ever kept two males together, and just want some insight on what that is like.

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by franks

Interesting. I have a question but need to relate it to dogs to be understood: people who have kept dogs and have witnessed dog altercations can tell the difference between different types of dog fights. There is the jockeying for dominance, the escalated version of this which is a real fight, and then an all out fight for survival. How do your experiences with these two compare? I saw the one video where cera had littlefoot by the leg- any fear that these altercations can escalate into an all out fight for survival? I am pretty sure Daniel Bennett wrote that he believes combat is fairly common, but had no reason to suspect these lizards ever faught to the death, I just wonder how/if captivity changes that. Just curious- I have no access to anyone that has ever kept two males together, and just want some insight on what that is like.

OK, very good question.

My answer may not win any popularity contests, but this is one huge biology experiment to prove a point about well heated animals behaving and thriving completely in contrast to the norm.

Do I fear permanent injury or death? of course I do. This is an inherent risk with cohabbing any animals.

However, I find these behaviours interesting, and I plan to keep these two together until it's impossible to do.

Either it works out or it don't.

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by infernalis

OK, very good question.

My answer may not win any popularity contests, but this is one huge biology experiment to prove a point about well heated animals behaving and thriving completely in contrast to the norm.

Do I fear permanent injury or death? of course I do. This is an inherent risk with cohabbing any animals.

However, I find these behaviours interesting, and I plan to keep these two together until it's impossible to do.

Either it works out or it don't.

I like this thought process.

Has it been a year already?!?!?!?!

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

I like this thought process.

Has it been a year already?!?!?!?!

year and a half my man... already planning that big cage upgrade.

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by infernalis

year and a half my man... already planning that big cage upgrade.

Wow.... where has the time gone?

[guidofatherof5]

Great video Wayne. I see a little bite didn't stop feeding.

[moshirimon]

Love how lean they are

[Vegasarah]

Originally Posted by hunter4life

How often do you feed them like this and how many do they get? Just curious

Them stuffing themselves into that pipe still is too funny. I remember when that pipe was huge compared to them! Great video, Wayne. I'm back on here now lurking around- I didn't abandon you guys

[infernalis]

[Tenodera]

such vigor! Did you only give them one chick at a time or is one a particular fast feeder?

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by Tenodera

such vigor! Did you only give them one chick at a time or is one a particular fast feeder?

They take varying amounts of time to swallow.

This feeding was six chicks, three for each lizard, once they started tugging them in half, it seemed like they wanted to do this, ignoring other food and continue to make this mess.

[boosh96]

I watched some of your Youtube videos, and I have to reiterate that these two are pretty much the coolest things ever.. If I had the resources to properly keep a Sav I'd do it in a heartbeat.

[infernalis]

Congratulations my ever so popular lizards, they have 31 thousand views on this thread from all corners of the globe!