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Originally Posted by formica
pretty sure the title of this thread is 'please help' - and if someone is giving what I consider to be bad advice, then I will say so, deal with it.
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Except it isn't bad advice. You can't consider it to be bad because you don't actually know if it is or is not. You have never dealt with this and have no experience with this. You admitted to never having used them. Thus you have no experience thus you have no place to say whether or not it is or is not bad. However when 3 people post about having used them and having had positive results you can do nothing but continue to slam them with your blatant ignorance. Let's see. People with no experience versus people with experience. Guess who's post is valid. Let me give you a hint, it isn't the post belonging the the person who has no experience. If you've never ridden a bicycle you can't give advice on how to ride a bicycle. If you've never skydived you can't have a valid unbiased opinion on which parachuting systems are better BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW. Because you have never had experience with it. Because you know nothing about it. You can't tell a person whether vocal commands alone are better than e collars or not when you have no idea. The only experience you have is with vocal commands and sure, you know it has worked well so far but you have not a single living clue in the universe as to whether or not an ecollar could improve the training or not. So before you go around spreading hate and intolerance for something, experience it first. Everything to this point that you have said against ecollars is purely biased conjectural hear-say. No experience. No first hand knowledge. No understanding. You didn't even TRY to listen or understand.
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