Tub Problems...

Mikoh4792 · 06-14-13, 05:21 PM

How do you know the humidity is 50-60%? I bet you it isn't with the inside of the tub being damp/wet. It's probably more like 70-90%. If you are still using those gauges to read the humidity levels than it's most likely wrong.

I have just started using rack systems and I made a thread earlier about the humidity being too high. I just kept adding rows of small holes until they started to hold 50-70% consistently instead of 70-90%. Whenever I put my hand inside the tub I could feel that the air was too wet, and there was condensation inside the walls of the hiding spots and around the water bowl. Trial and error will work for you if you keep putting holes into the tub a little at a time.

smy_749 · 06-14-13, 07:53 PM

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How do you know the humidity is 50-60%? I bet you it isn't with the inside of the tub being damp/wet. It's probably more like 70-90%. If you are still using those gauges to read the humidity levels than it's most likely wrong.

I have just started using rack systems and I made a thread earlier about the humidity being too high. I just kept adding rows of small holes until they started to hold 50-70% consistently instead of 70-90%. Whenever I put my hand inside the tub I could feel that the air was too wet, and there was condensation inside the walls of the hiding spots and around the water bowl. Trial and error will work for you if you keep putting holes into the tub a little at a time.

Humidity is the % of water vapor in the air. A wet enclosure is not a humid one. I have humid enclosures with no condensation or wet spots in them. Also, warmer air is easier to keep humid than cold air. (thats why you see condensation on cold glasses etc.)

Just put a water bowl, don't mist at all, and check the humidity after a bit.

Mikoh4792 · 06-14-13, 08:23 PM

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Humidity is the % of water vapor in the air. A wet enclosure is not a humid one. I have humid enclosures with no condensation or wet spots in them. Also, warmer air is easier to keep humid than cold air. (thats why you see condensation on cold glasses etc.)

Just put a water bowl, don't mist at all, and check the humidity after a bit.

You are telling me things I already know. I have already pointed that fact out to other members here. However, speaking from experience a damp/wet tub is a humid tub. Tubs are usually short in height and the humidity inside a damp/wet tub will be drastically higher than the humidity in a damp/wet enclosure/tank. With that quarter sized hole as his only ventilation in his tub, a damp/wet environment will not keep his enclosure at 50-60%, it will be much higher.

Edit: I don't understand why you mentioned it being easier to keep humidity in warmer air than in colder air. It doesn't further your argument. Snake tubs/enclosures will be warm, therefore more humidity. You combine warm air, water bowl, damp/wet environment and you have a very humid enclosure. A little too humid for his type of snake, and most likely more humid than his analog humidity/thermometers are reading.

ErikBush97 · 06-14-13, 08:52 PM

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You are telling me things I already know. I have already pointed that fact out to other members here. However, speaking from experience a damp/wet tub is a humid tub. Tubs are usually short in height and the humidity inside a damp/wet tub will be drastically higher than the humidity in a damp/wet enclosure/tank. With that quarter sized hole as his only ventilation in his tub, a damp/wet environment will not keep his enclosure at 50-60%, it will be much higher.

Edit: I don't understand why you mentioned it being easier to keep humidity in warmer air than in colder air. It doesn't further your argument. Snake tubs/enclosures will be warm, therefore more humidity. You combine warm air, water bowl, damp/wet environment and you have a very humid enclosure. A little too humid for his type of snake, and most likely more humid than his analog humidity/thermometers are reading.

The one I have now is WAY bigger than a quarter. I was saying I could buy smaller vents and line them up on the side of the tub.

ErikBush97 · 06-14-13, 08:42 PM

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How do you know the humidity is 50-60%? I bet you it isn't with the inside of the tub being damp/wet. It's probably more like 70-90%. If you are still using those gauges to read the humidity levels than it's most likely wrong.

I have just started using rack systems and I made a thread earlier about the humidity being too high. I just kept adding rows of small holes until they started to hold 50-70% consistently instead of 70-90%. Whenever I put my hand inside the tub I could feel that the air was too wet, and there was condensation inside the walls of the hiding spots and around the water bowl. Trial and error will work for you if you keep putting holes into the tub a little at a time.

Thanks for the suggestion! I am still using those gauges

Haven't had time to pick a better one up. Do you have a link for a good one? Maybe on Amizon or Ebay?

Mikoh4792 · 06-14-13, 08:57 PM

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Thanks for the suggestion! I am still using those gauges

Haven't had time to pick a better one up. Do you have a link for a good one? Maybe on Amizon or Ebay?

Yes I do.

Amazon.com: AcuRite 00325 Home Comfort Monitor, Black: Home & Kitchen

Many people use this, it's very popular and reliable.

You could also these stick-on fluker's digital therm/hydrometers. They are a bit pricey, and people have complained about their quality but comparing them to the readings on my acurites, they seem to be consistent and I haven't had one fail on me.

Amazon.com: Fluker's Digital Thermometer/Hygrometer: Pet Supplies

You could also look for other options to suit your needs/purposes, but I am giving you choices based on what I have used and still use with good results.

ErikBush97 · 06-14-13, 08:59 PM

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Yes I do.

Amazon.com: AcuRite 00325 Home Comfort Monitor, Black: Home & Kitchen

Many people use this, it's very popular and reliable.

You could also these stick-on fluker's digital therm/hydrometers. They are a bit pricey, and people have complained about their quality but comparing them to the readings on my acurites, they seem to be consistent and I haven't had one fail on me.

Amazon.com: Fluker's Digital Thermometer/Hygrometer: Pet Supplies

You could also look for other options to suit your needs/purposes, but I am giving you choices based on what I have used and still use with good results.

Thanks, man!

ErikBush97 · 06-14-13, 09:00 PM

I do not have a way to measure the mesh vent, but here's a photo of it with a quarter on top of it, for a bit of perspective.
Don't mind the sloppy "glue job" I did. I didn't know that stuff expands.

Mikoh4792 · 06-14-13, 09:02 PM

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I do not have a way to measure the mesh vent, but here's a photo of it with a quarter on top of it, for a bit of perspective.

looks good. Does your house get cold in the winter? If you put multiple vents like that on the sides of the tub, it may be hard to control ambient air temperatures inside during colder days.

ErikBush97 · 06-14-13, 09:25 PM

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looks good. Does your house get cold in the winter? If you put multiple vents like that on the sides of the tub, it may be hard to control ambient air temperatures inside during colder days.

Yes. It does get cold, but I love to be warm so I usually keep the heat up in the 80's. In my room anyways (where my snakes are). So, I think I'll be okay for the most part.

ErikBush97 · 06-14-13, 10:31 PM

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Thanks, man!

Just ordered an AcuRite Temp/Humidity Gauge

rocknhorse76 · 06-15-13, 06:01 PM

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Just ordered an AcuRite Temp/Humidity Gauge

In the future, just go pick up the exact same gauge at Walmart for the same price. I just picked up 2 of them last week in Las Vegas, and saw the same ones in my hometown in WA State the other day.

Mikoh4792 · 06-15-13, 06:09 PM

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In the future, just go pick up the exact same gauge at Walmart for the same price. I just picked up 2 of them last week in Las Vegas, and saw the same ones in my hometown in WA State the other day.

You get free two day shipping from amazon. But I guess it's faster if you are near a wal-mart. The closest one where I live is an hour and 30 minutes away by car. I'd rather save the gas and get it in two days.