I found a keeper

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by smy_749

Did you read the part where I said you know your situation better than I do? Because we don't know the temps in her home, the temps he was sitting in, etc.

No I don't think its 85 degrees year round 24/7/365. But if you'd care to tell me how you know what temps it is in her house before advising her that 4 hours is not so long, I'm curious. If you'd care to tell me how you know the humidity levels in her house, I'm also curious. And if you'd care to tell me how slow seasonal change over time is the same as pulling it out in an instant to different temps/humidity is the same situation, ...you get the point. FR talked about how he had monitors that he put outside in the winter, they died. He also talked about how he had the same species kept outside all year round, same winter temps, and they did fine.

People really need to apply a little more manners when they advise those trying to help. I defended you on your last thread when you got all PMS, but you don't have to be debby downer on every thread.

Wow! My hero! Cut the crap. I didn't need defended as I was the one with proper information.

Now its June, I highly doubt her house is under 60°f but regardless did you forget that humans a low grade heat source? With the snakes body directly against a heat source that was putting out a constant 90°f what is the real risk?

My original comment wasn't necessarily directed at you but more at your mentality. I am tired if people just repeating rote without actually engaging there mind. Especially when they are criticizing someone for no real reason.

Finally when I started typing my post the last post was the one I quoted.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Wow! My hero! Cut the crap. I didn't need defended as I was the one with proper information.

Now its June, I highly doubt her house is under 60°f but regardless did you forget that humans a low grade heat source? With the snakes body directly against a heat source that was putting out a constant 90°f what is the real risk?

My original comment wasn't necessarily directed at you but more at your mentality. I am tired if people just repeating rote without actually engaging there mind. Especially when they are criticizing someone for no real reason.

Finally when I started typing my post the last post was the one I quoted.

Just to add on this, when I read my skin temps with the heat guns they read 92F on both heat guns. Our bodies are in a way like belly heat for the snake.

EDIT: my hands are 95, the rest of my body is 92

[Pareeeee]

Originally Posted by mikoh4792

Just to add on this, when I read my skin temps with the heat guns they read 92F on both heat guns. Our bodies are in a way like belly heat for the snake.

EDIT: my hands are 95, the rest of my body is 92

That's exactly what I was thinking. I don't think temperature would be an issue. I wouldn't take my snake out for four hours though, just because handling them stresses them (whether we think they 'look' stressed or not, snakes don't exhibit human body language, they can't communicate how they 'feel') but that's just me. I'm sure being out for four hours this once it didn't hurt OP's snake. The longest I ever take my snakes out is about one hour, but usually I try to keep it under half-an-hour. Depends on the snake too. My Rosy tolerates being out longer than my BP.

Originally Posted by SkyesRingo

@Aaron
You shouldn't call her dumb.

Forum Rule #3.

Originally Posted by SkyesRingo

Also, y'all need to take these "fights" to a private message or something.

I 100% agree

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

She didn't get just a "little" info wrong. It's a lot wrong if people are going to continue the media hype about the invading burms into the whole Country. That's how we lose our hobby.

Have to agree with Aaron on this point though. It's bad enough that the snake haters are spreading this gossip, we don't need keepers to be doing it as well. They'll take it as "proof," as us admitting it's true, which it isn't.

[smy_749]

Originally Posted by slowhite03

I'm all for spoiling pets and what not but people also need to realize that the wild is not so peachy. Our little guys will drink water from a toilet if they had to so when people say they need to change there water every day or every other day is fine but not necessary. So if they are out of there comfort zone for a couple hours I really don't see the big deal. He knows his pets better than anybody on the forum. So if he wants to hold his snake for a couple hours so be it.

Theres a difference between what is tolerable/survivable, and what is ideal. If you'd like to provide minimal conditions, to see how hardy your reptiles truly are, than thats fine. If you'd like to provide ideal conditions for good health, than that involves changing the water, disinfecting the bowl, etc. Snakes in the wild don't have 1 water dish the size of a small puddle to choose from.



"Wow! My hero! Cut the crap. I didn't need defended as I was the one with proper information.
I wasn't defending you being right or wrong. (my info was fine, I just thought he meant dubia and not every species, which he did, and you on the other hand, with your typical PMS attitude, decided to be completely useless and not tell us what was 'wrong' from the beginning because your smarter than everyone here and nobody is supposed to learn or ask questions on public forums) I was defending the fact that your acting like a 12 year old who thinks he knows everything and has to keep it a secret...I thought you were having a bad day , but it seems for you everyday is a bad day unfortunately, or you just don't know how to interact with human beings.

Now its June, I highly doubt her house is under 60°f but regardless did you forget that humans a low grade heat source?Have you heard of an air conditioner? Maybe her house is cool like mine, and I didn't know she was from florida, last week it was in the 50's and rainy where I'm at. With the snakes body directly against a heat source that was putting out a constant 90°f what is the real risk?

My original comment wasn't necessarily directed at you but more at your mentality. I am tired if people just repeating rote without actually engaging there mind. Especially when they are criticizing someone for no real reason.

Finally when I started typing my post the last post was the one I quoted."

I didn't 'criticize' her. I thought my initial comment was quite polite, and said that she knows herself better than I do. Just saying it as a precaution.