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06-03-13, 03:58 AM
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Re: How do I keep my BP's cage humid?
What temp/humidity gauges did you buy? Some can be inaccurate, especially the stick on ones from the store.
If you lay the tank on it's side how are you heating it?
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06-03-13, 04:09 AM
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Re: How do I keep my BP's cage humid?
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And Terranaut lands with a crushing right hook.
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Well the truth is I told him that if he bought a fish tank he would have issues and within a day or two he did. Why come here,ask good questions, get great info from experienced keepers then ignore it all? He was told no aquarium, no heat lamps and to use a thermostat. Was any of this followed.....Nope
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06-03-13, 04:20 AM
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Re: How do I keep my BP's cage humid?
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Well the truth is I told him that if he bought a fish tank he would have issues and within a day or two he did. Why come here,ask good questions, get great info from experienced keepers then ignore it all? He was told no aquarium, no heat lamps and to use a thermostat. Was any of this followed.....Nope

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nice gif.
Would you say that heat lamps are a bad source of heat? If so, what to do in the colder seasons when a heat pad will not suffice? Also do you prefer racks to enclosures or the other way around for keeping snakes?(enclosures as in animal plastics, vision cages...etc).
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06-03-13, 06:59 AM
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Re: How do I keep my BP's cage humid?
I prefer enclosures. I like a nice display enclosure and racks are not my thing but are way better than fish tanks. If your heat source is inadequate you should be replacing it not bandaiding it with a light. The setup he has can be fine for certain snakes but not a royal.
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06-03-13, 07:19 AM
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Re: How do I keep my BP's cage humid?
Aaron, you can probably get a normal for free :P Nobody wants them anyways.
To the original poster, who told you a ball python needs UVB? All that money you spent would have been better spent this way.
Rubbermaid tub
Hygrofarm thermostat
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06-03-13, 07:26 AM
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Re: How do I keep my BP's cage humid?
Also for the record I never said you were an idiot and I don't want you to think I did,I simple wanted to point out to me it feels like you jumped in after gazing over one care sheet that's all. I also must echo another member by asking why you didn't test the setup before even bringing the animal home.
I wish you luck in fixing things and I hope you can return most of it if not all because if it is from a pet store I wouldn't put much stock on the 'stats.
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06-03-13, 07:59 AM
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Re: How do I keep my BP's cage humid?
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Aaron, you can probably get a normal for free :P Nobody wants them anyways.
To the original poster, who told you a ball python needs UVB? All that money you spent would have been better spent this way.
Rubbermaid tub
Hygrofarm thermostat
Undertank heater
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I hatch normals so yes I do get them for "free" but don't ever think no one wants them. They are always wanted.
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06-03-13, 11:31 AM
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Re: How do I keep my BP's cage humid?
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Well that is a typical pet store sale. Did we not say in your other thread not to get a fish tank? Even a rubermade tub with a few holes is better . I am sorry to say this but you failed at listening and will most likely have problems fron here on out. Also, the first thing you said was the cost. People on this site hate that. This is an animal and once you buy it the "value" of it is no longer about money.
Good luck. Next time listen to us
This is post #5 in your other thread
I rest my case. Here you are asking what is wrong. Why ask for advise you won't take?
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I know everyone said tubs, but I didn't know how big the BP was, so I am buying a tub later. I went to buy one Saturday but couldn't decide which to get. The reason I talked about cost, btw, is because I want the snake to be happy, and I'm not going to a pet store with $50 if I'll need $100. (Just an example). I really care about my animals. All of them, and as I said, was going to buy a tub today, anyway.
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06-03-13, 11:32 AM
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Re: How do I keep my BP's cage humid?
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What temp/humidity gauges did you buy? Some can be inaccurate, especially the stick on ones from the store.
If you lay the tank on it's side how are you heating it?
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1 heat mat/pad under the tank, and 1 Heat light.
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06-03-13, 11:37 AM
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Re: How do I keep my BP's cage humid?
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1 heat mat/pad under the tank, and 1 Heat light.
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How are you heating it with a heat light? Do you shine it sideways through the screen?
Also what temp/humidity gauges are you using?
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06-03-13, 11:38 AM
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Re: How do I keep my BP's cage humid?
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Also for the record I never said you were an idiot and I don't want you to think I did,I simple wanted to point out to me it feels like you jumped in after gazing over one care sheet that's all. I also must echo another member by asking why you didn't test the setup before even bringing the animal home.
I wish you luck in fixing things and I hope you can return most of it if not all because if it is from a pet store I wouldn't put much stock on the 'stats.
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I know you didn't.
And I've told terranaught this already. This is just a temperary setup. I looked at tubs, which he suggested a while ago. The thing is that I couldn't decide on any size tub, because I didn't know how big he was.
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06-03-13, 11:39 AM
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Re: How do I keep my BP's cage humid?
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I know everyone said tubs, but I didn't know how big the BP was, so I am buying a tub later. I went to buy one Saturday but couldn't decide which to get. The reason I talked about cost, btw, is because I want the snake to be happy, and I'm going to a pet store with $50 if I'll need $100. (Just an example). I really care about my animals. All of them, and as I said, was going to buy a tub today, anyway.
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If you didn't know how big the BP was then why buy the 20 gallon? You could have bought a tub with similar dimensions for cheaper. Just trying to save money.
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06-03-13, 11:45 AM
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Re: How do I keep my BP's cage humid?
I bought the Python at the same pet store as the terrarium, and at the same time.
But now I know how big the snake is (1.5") and theres a Big Lots right next to my house. I'll buy a tub there once I get a chance!
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06-03-13, 11:49 AM
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Re: How do I keep my BP's cage humid?
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I bought the Python at the same pet store as the terrarium, and at the same time.
But now I know how big the snake is (1.5") and theres a Big Lots right next to my house. I'll buy a tub there once I get a chance!
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You already have a 20 gallon tank and an UTH. Glass enclosures are not good snake enclosures becuase people don't know how to make them good snake enclosures. Just cover the 3 sides of the tank and put something over the screen top to retain heat and humidity. You don't need to go out and buy another enclosure for it.
Glass tank
3 sides covered
UTH on thermostat
Screen top covered
Large water dish
Spray water occasionally
Can you just answer this question please. Which gauges are you using? It could just be that your humidity levels are fine but your gauges are inaccurate. It's not hard to keep humidity levels for a BP unless you dry the air out with a heat lamp or leave the screen top uncovered.
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06-03-13, 12:03 PM
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Re: How do I keep my BP's cage humid?
He has the tank, and the snake, so a bunch of "I told you so" probably isnt going to help. There is nothing wrong with using glass, and its not at all difficult to adapt the lid.
To the OP, after what you have already bought, the only other thing you need to buy is another hide for the cool side. (the cave type hides are better than the half log style ones as they like it dark and tight during the day while they are sleeping) That way you have a hide on the hot and cool sides. You can simply cover the screen top with a piece of wood or plexiglass and that will solve your humidity and heating problems. If you are still having a problem with humidity, buy a live plant, like a pothos, and put the entire thing with the pot inside the tank. It will increase the humidity and also give more ground cover for your snake to feel secure.
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