The yellow rat snake that may enjoy some human contact.

[Cory]

I would like to thank those of you who have posted appropriate responses to my initial question. They have been valuable to read and I now see patterns of behaviour that are similar to the ones I posted about.

Sadly, many of these same posts bear personal attacks and all too frequently insults have come up. I was under the impression that such invectives were not to be tolerated on this website, but evidence to the contrary is ample. There is no cause for me to address each one, particularly because there are so many. Hopefully, though, this situation can be addressed and corrected so that a sense of community and information sharing can be enhanced. I have asked the administrators for their assistance in this matter.

I continue to encourage anyone who has any reports of behaviours or interactions that snakes seem to experience in a positive way, and/or interpretations of these phenomena, to share them on this thread, please. My goal is to make the captive lives of snakes less stressful and more pleasant for them and to encourage those people who keep snakes to have a higher rate of behavioural success with them. If this is from a viewpoint of "love, fine. If it is from the perspective of classic conditioning, fine. The same goes for any viewpoint. The evidence, anecdotal or not, is much appreciated and I hope will go toward improving the lives of snakes and their keepers.

Thank you,
Cory

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by Cory

I would like to thank those of you who have posted appropriate responses to my initial question. They have been valuable to read and I now see patterns of behaviour that are similar to the ones I posted about.

Sadly, many of these same posts bear personal attacks and all too frequently insults have come up. I was under the impression that such invectives were not to be tolerated on this website, but evidence to the contrary is ample. There is no cause for me to address each one, particularly because there are so many. Hopefully, though, this situation can be addressed and corrected so that a sense of community and information sharing can be enhanced. I have asked the administrators for their assistance in this matter.

I continue to encourage anyone who has any reports of behaviours or interactions that snakes seem to experience in a positive way, and/or interpretations of these phenomena, to share them on this thread, please. My goal is to make the captive lives of snakes less stressful and more pleasant for them and to encourage those people who keep snakes to have a higher rate of behavioural success with them. If this is from a viewpoint of "love, fine. If it is from the perspective of classic conditioning, fine. The same goes for any viewpoint. The evidence, anecdotal or not, is much appreciated and I hope will go toward improving the lives of snakes and their keepers.

Thank you,
Cory

Simple for the bold and underlined part. Don't mess with them. Meet their environment needs and voila. Less stress.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by Cory

I would like to thank those of you who have posted appropriate responses to my initial question. They have been valuable to read and I now see patterns of behaviour that are similar to the ones I posted about.

Sadly, many of these same posts bear personal attacks and all too frequently insults have come up. I was under the impression that such invectives were not to be tolerated on this website, but evidence to the contrary is ample. There is no cause for me to address each one, particularly because there are so many. Hopefully, though, this situation can be addressed and corrected so that a sense of community and information sharing can be enhanced. I have asked the administrators for their assistance in this matter.

I continue to encourage anyone who has any reports of behaviours or interactions that snakes seem to experience in a positive way, and/or interpretations of these phenomena, to share them on this thread, please. My goal is to make the captive lives of snakes less stressful and more pleasant for them and to encourage those people who keep snakes to have a higher rate of behavioural success with them. If this is from a viewpoint of "love, fine. If it is from the perspective of classic conditioning, fine. The same goes for any viewpoint. The evidence, anecdotal or not, is much appreciated and I hope will go toward improving the lives of snakes and their keepers.

Thank you,
Cory

I'll respond to the rest now.

When you decide that heresay (which is all you and others who share your views are going on) decide to actually do research and be open minded to the fact you may be wrong then we can continue this debate.

Until then, I'll never take the story of someone who just wants to believe their animal has a higher intelligence and tries to prove it be saying basic instinct is some sort of "love" or other emotion. Every snake action can be easily put to a basic instinct.

[Cory]

Aaron_S,

My apologies if I was unclear about what kind of snake I was asking about. I was referring both to the yellow rat snake (Elaphe obsoleta rossalleni) featured in the thread's title and also anything generally that you thought was worth noting. The contribution you provided was a general one and thereby appreciated.

I was not aware that this would become a debate and never intended it to be so. I was only interested in viewpoints on the thread topic; "The yellow rat snake that may enjoy some human contact" and thank you for your contribution.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by Cory

Aaron_S,

My apologies if I was unclear about what kind of snake I was asking about. I was referring both to the yellow rat snake (Elaphe obsoleta rossalleni) featured in the thread's title and also anything generally that you thought was worth noting. The contribution you provided was a general one and thereby appreciated.

I was not aware that this would become a debate and never intended it to be so. I was only interested in viewpoints on the thread topic; "The yellow rat snake that may enjoy some human contact" and thank you for your contribution.

debate? viewpoints? All the same.

I would really like to see someone back up their "viewpoints" instead of the blind leading the blind.



I don't know enough about that species but give the required needs for the species and all is golden. They stress less. It's very visible in the snake's demeanour.