The yellow rat snake that may enjoy some human contact.

smy_749 · 05-30-13, 01:43 PM

Lol wow, very scientific post possum!
You guys dont realize that these are snakes, not humans. You say you do, but by your posts you clearly don't. Snakes aren't domesticated like your dogs and cats. They don't have a human brain, which means they have stuff we don't, and lack stuff we have. If you haven't intensely studied the human brain, and the brains of other vertebrates including squamata, then don't comment based on your intellect, because your intellect and thinking from a snakes point of view garbage is exactly that in the world of science, garbage. show me hard scientific facts to back claims.

possum · 05-30-13, 02:07 PM

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Lol wow, very scientific post possum!....

I knew you'd be along to argue...LOL I do not discount science at all, but scientists also miss things. I can give you specifics, but you'll only argue? (my best friend IS a scientist...& over the years keeping many snakes himself, we are on the same page, fyi)

possum · 05-30-13, 02:36 PM

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..... show me hard scientific facts to back claims.

Don't need to...this is a forum, remember? And last I checked, you don't own it? Why are you SO afraid of new ideas & other's opinions and experience? You "circle the wagons" every time with childish personal attacks like this is WWIII.

I will add though, that it's much easier to treat animals (any kind) like an unthinking commodity and keep them in minimal conditions (think puppy mill?) for their lifespan and for your amusement and maybe profit if you can remain convinced (and perhaps convince others?) that it has has no real brain or "feelings"...so the more you rant at me, the more I wonder how humanely you keep things.

smy_749 · 05-30-13, 03:06 PM

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Don't need to...this is a forum, remember? And last I checked, you don't own it? Why are you SO afraid of new ideas & other's opinions and experience? You "circle the wagons" every time with childish personal attacks like this is WWIII.

I will add though, that it's much easier to treat animals (any kind) like an unthinking commodity and keep them in minimal conditions (think puppy mill?) for their lifespan and for your amusement and maybe profit if you can remain convinced (and perhaps convince others?) that it has has no real brain or "feelings"...so the more you rant at me, the more I wonder how humanely you keep things.

I'm afraid of stupidity. It's contagious and I don't want newcomers to catch it from you. Your right, it is easier to treat them like unthinking commodities and in minimal conditions, so which member does that? You think the only reason people like me, aaron, whoever else thinks they don't like us, keeps them for profit? What do you keep your animals for? Because they love you and you don't want to break their hearts? Or to observe them for your own amusement? Or do you breed them to repopulate the population and save planet earth? I didn't say it has no real brain or feelings, I said it doesn't have what you think it has, because you seem to have never opened a book and read anything on the matter.

I'm afraid of people who say the snake enjoy's his contact (around his neck) and uses it as a proof that they enjoy his company, and at the end discredits himself saying he probably smelled a female and was just confused.

Oh, your friend is a scientist so YOU must understand the physiology of all things reptile? And again with the " kept snakes for many years " thing.....

Enlighten me with your specifics please, not from your own mouth, but scientific facts. We are all aware that scientists get things wrong, but its not any reason to lose your marbles and think of any theory that comes to mind without understanding anything and having no foundation in the knowledge required to come up with those theories .

possum · 05-30-13, 03:33 PM

smy_749: Well speaking of stupid...stop putting words in my mouth. The rosy boa was comfortable around my neck...I do not think he was actually attracted to me (duh?) therefore as I said, I assumed that maybe he caught some scent from the female rosy? who knows...this thread is about observations of snakes with humans...clearly you have nothing to add but hostility. How pathetic.

smy_749 · 05-30-13, 04:28 PM

Where did I say he was attracted to you? You said I put words in your mouth, then said I said something which I didn't.....Do you realize how stupid that is? You did however say more than once that he was enjoyed cuddling, enjoyed being touched, snakes enjoying human contact, liked to snuggle around your neck, (in another thread liked to snuggle while you watch an entire movie) .....

And your evidence is that they feed and do well? The people who put snakes in tubs with papertowels and heat have snakes that feed and do well.....Nice evidence.

One last thing because I don't want to drag this thread on too long....Just incase you decide to edit anything ;-) Copy pasted from your posts...

"your snakes don't like you"

"Speaking of snakes enjoying human contact"

"male rosy boa I kept for many years liked to snuggle around my neck"

Oh, this is a good one..

"realized with some degree of surprise & amusement that he was "flirting" with me! "

"I think that many snakes enjoy being touched in a non-threatening way by us,"

"Some of mine seem to enjoy a little 'massage'"

And my favorite

"The only snake I have that TOTALLY sits still & cuddles for hours watching a movie is my 7+ foot boa (BCI)"

possum · 05-30-13, 09:16 PM

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I'm afraid of stupidity. It's contagious and I don't want newcomers to catch it from you....

smy_749: I truly hope you are as young as you seem? You always resort to name-calling & hostile rants when you disagree with someone...I hope eventually you learn how to exchange differing opinions without all the drama. As you mature, you'll find the world is chock-full of ppl with views different from yours, and tolerance & civilized communication really do come in handy. Not to mention that reality or truth has a way of being revised again and again.

rangers · 06-12-13, 03:31 PM

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I'm afraid of stupidity. It's contagious and I don't want newcomers to catch it from you. Your right, it is easier to treat them like unthinking commodities and in minimal conditions, so which member does that? You think the only reason people like me, aaron, whoever else thinks they don't like us, keeps them for profit? What do you keep your animals for? Because they love you and you don't want to break their hearts? Or to observe them for your own amusement? Or do you breed them to repopulate the population and save planet earth? I didn't say it has no real brain or feelings, I said it doesn't have what you think it has, because you seem to have never opened a book and read anything on the matter.

I'm afraid of people who say the snake enjoy's his contact (around his neck) and uses it as a proof that they enjoy his company, and at the end discredits himself saying he probably smelled a female and was just confused.

Oh, your friend is a scientist so YOU must understand the physiology of all things reptile? And again with the " kept snakes for many years " thing.....

Enlighten me with your specifics please, not from your own mouth, but scientific facts. We are all aware that scientists get things wrong, but its not any reason to lose your marbles and think of any theory that comes to mind without understanding anything and having no foundation in the knowledge required to come up with those theories .

You know, I agree with possum here. I've rubbed my snakes neck, lizards neck's, and they almost fall asleep or calm down. And, I believe if youve kept snake for many years, I'm sure you'd start understand what they like don't like. Im catching stupidity from someone other than possum. ( hint hint)

KORBIN5895 · 06-12-13, 04:12 PM

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You know, I agree with possum here. I've rubbed my snakes neck, lizards neck's, and they almost fall asleep or calm down. And, I believe if youve kept snake for many years, I'm sure you'd start understand what they like don't like. Im catching stupidity from someone other than possum. ( hint hint)

Or spreading it......

smy_749 · 06-12-13, 05:47 PM

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You know, I agree with possum here. I've rubbed my snakes neck, lizards neck's, and they almost fall asleep or calm down. And, I believe if youve kept snake for many years, I'm sure you'd start understand what they like don't like. Im catching stupidity from someone other than possum. ( hint hint)

Did you read all my posts or just pick and choose. I'll say it again, if you get a massage, and it feels good, does that mean you have to be affectionate/caring/loving towards the one who gave you a massage? No....

rangers · 06-12-13, 09:24 PM

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Did you read all my posts or just pick and choose. I'll say it again, if you get a massage, and it feels good, does that mean you have to be affectionate/caring/loving towards the one who gave you a massage? No....

I read all of the posts.