Importing Lace Monitors?

[Gregg M]

Originally Posted by stephanbakir

there are small island colonies that are farmed pretty heavily.

What islands are those? As far as I know, lace monitors are not found anywhere off of mainland Australia.

[varanus_mad]

Originally Posted by Gregg M

What islands are those? As far as I know, lace monitors are not found anywhere off of mainland Australia.

And i thought the aussie island stuff wasnt being exported either?

[stephanbakir]

Originally Posted by Gregg M

What islands are those? As far as I know, lace monitors are not found anywhere off of mainland Australia.

Some were exported originally to makasar (sula) and java, at least thats what the exporters tell you, email me at Stephanbakir@gmail.com and I'll send you the import list + the guys contact info

Originally Posted by varanus_mad

And i thought the aussie island stuff wasnt being exported either?

It's not, but whatever left before the laws past and their babies are still out there, carpets etc.

[crocdoc]

Originally Posted by jhinton6932

not sure why the export laws are so strict

Because if reptile exports were legal it would be too easy to rort the system and start sneaking out rare reptiles, or start raiding wild nests to sell WC animals as 'CB'.

Originally Posted by stephanbakir

Some were exported originally to makasar (sula) and java, at least thats what the exporters tell you

The key line in this quote is "at least that's what the exporters tell you". Yes, someone is feeding you a line about smuggled animals.

1. Reptile export out of Australia has been illegal for a long time and no one was breeding them, then, so the story of breeding lines predating the ban on exports is exactly that - a story.

2. Why on earth would they be exported to Java and Sula, of all places?

3. It's no coincidence that Indonesia is known for a rorted export system whereby WC animals are smuggled out as 'CB', therefore Java and Sula are named as the places where lace monitors are 'heavily farmed' (lol). Lace monitors aren't farmed anywhere.

[varanus_mad]

Originally Posted by stephanbakir

Some were exported originally to makasar (sula) and java, at least thats what the exporters tell you, email me at Stephanbakir@gmail.com and I'll send you the import list + the guys contact info

It's not, but whatever left before the laws past and their babies are still out there, carpets etc.

Well that sounds like a lot of BS Thered be hundreds about by now if that was the case.

You only have to look at the aussie stuff that made it to know that,

[_Varanidae_]

Originally Posted by Gregg M

What islands are those? As far as I know, lace monitors are not found anywhere off of mainland Australia.

Gregg, Lace monitors are found on several islands off the east coast of Australia, in the states of Queensland (e.g., Whitsunday Islands, Frazier Island, South Stradbroke Island, Bribie Island...) and Victoria (e.g., Phillip Island), and maybe New South Wales as well?

[crocdoc]

Originally Posted by _Varanidae_

Gregg, Lace monitors are found on several islands off the east coast of Australia...

I think you've taken his quote out of context. This was the original context (a suggestion that there are island colonies of lace monitors not governed by Australia's wildlife export laws):

Originally Posted by stephanbakir

Either way, if you try hard you can still find Lace monitors at a reasonably price. I know the makasar port and the java port get them from time to time, there are small island colonies that are farmed pretty heavily.