Bearded dragon venom, illegal collection from wild

[bronxzoofrank]

Originally Posted by murrindindi

My "opinions" are based on recent research and the published results.
I most respectfully suggest you contact them and update the information in your caresheet.

Again, "related", "closely related etc" are not matters that I can debate without expert opinion, which I am not about to solicit at this point..apologies if you are such an expert. No need to forward anything further re taxonomy, thank you, I have access to appropriate people if needed.

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by bronxzoofrank

I have access to appropriate people if needed.

Frank, Why must you (seem as if) you assume that this forum is populated by people who do no research?

"Access to appropriate people sounds" rather condescending to me, we have many very well educated people here, Professors, biologists, zoologists and accredited scientists, That comment gives the feel that the members of this community are somehow below you and not worthy of an opinion if it does not fall in line with your own.

If you are going to stubbornly refuse to accept criticisms, I would respectfully ask that you seek publicity for your blogs elsewhere.

[bronxzoofrank]

Originally Posted by infernalis

Frank, Why must you (seem as if) you assume that this forum is populated by people who do no research?

"Access to appropriate people sounds" rather condescending to me, we have many very well educated people here, Professors, biologists, zoologists and accredited scientists, That comment gives the feel that the members of this community are somehow below you and not worthy of an opinion if it does not fall in line with your own.

If you are going to stubbornly refuse to accept criticisms, I would respectfully ask that you seek publicity for your blogs elsewhere.

I do have access to such people, and suggested a source to poster, who did not mention his/her affiliations or whether he/she had such people to contact. I stated that I was not an expert in taxonomy, and, judging from the posted comments, did not imagine that the poster was either, but apologized in advance if s/he was. I've no desire to deal with the defensiveness shown here, i.e. -assuming above to be condescending, the nasty tone of many comments, and especially the quick and frequent resorting of some to personal characterizations (i.e. stubborn) (something I've not encountered elsewhere). You can leave or delete posts as you or whomever sees fit.

[murrindindi]

Originally Posted by bronxzoofrank

I do have access to such people, and suggested a source to poster, who did not mention his/her affiliations or whether he/she had such people to contact. I stated that I was not an expert in taxonomy, and, judging from the posted comments, did not imagine that the poster was either, but apologized in advance if s/he was. I've no desire to deal with the defensiveness shown here, i.e. -assuming above to be condescending, the nasty tone of many comments, and especially the quick and frequent resorting of some to personal characterizations (i.e. stubborn) (something I've not encountered elsewhere). You can leave or delete posts as you or whomever sees fit.

You are the one offering careguides which contain inaccurate information.
No, I`m not an "expert" on taxonomy, but I have at least done some research on the subject recently, clearly you have not.

[murrindindi]

[QUOTE=bronxzoofrank;815783]

Originally Posted by murrindindi

My "opinions" are based on recent research and the published results.
I most respectfully suggest you contact them and update the information in your caresheet.[/QUOT

Again, "related", "closely related etc" are not matters that I can debate without expert opinion, which I am not about to solicit at this point..apologies if you are such an expert. No need to forward anything further re taxonomy, thank you, I have access to appropriate people if needed.

We don`t appear to be getting anywhere fast, and I`m getting the impresssion you have no intention of changing the info you offer in the careguide which is a great shame, because it needs clarifying (unless I`m misunderstanding your responses)?
Learning is about questions that can be answered, not answers that can`t be questioned. As more information becomes available husbandry methods change, the improvements are there for all to see. The results are in, you just need to look!