shedding concerns

[JWFugle]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

So you just figure a vet is worthless at this point? The scales and tissues DIED at the end of your snake's tail. I'd go get that checked out instead of "just keeping an eye on it".

aaron first off... you seem like the type of person who attacks anyone who disagrees with you, very annoying whether your right or not. show some respect.

and second do you run to the ER everytime you get a cut or a bruised elbow?? you sound like the bubble boy and tweak over any nick or scratch you get. these are snakes not helpless sacks of skin... one of the worlds most efficient killers and survivors.

[EmbraceCalamity]

Originally Posted by JWFugle

aaron first off... you seem like the type of person who attacks anyone who disagrees with you, very annoying whether your right or not. show some respect.

and second do you run to the ER everytime you get a cut or a bruised elbow?? you sound like the bubble boy and tweak over any nick or scratch you get. these are snakes not helpless sacks of skin... one of the worlds most efficient killers and survivors.

Can you maybe get a better pic of the tail? Does it look like there are any scales that are black that shouldn't be?

~Maggot

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by JWFugle

aaron first off... you seem like the type of person who attacks anyone who disagrees with you, very annoying whether your right or not. show some respect.

and second do you run to the ER everytime you get a cut or a bruised elbow?? you sound like the bubble boy and tweak over any nick or scratch you get. these are snakes not helpless sacks of skin... one of the worlds most efficient killers and survivors.

Show respect to whom? Some nobody who is more worried about his wallet than his animal? Proven in the first post. I'm right and that's what matters. I don't attack anyone, I just point out the faults and the reality of the situation.

No, I don't run to an ER ever. I have never been actually. As Lady_Bug pointed out, this is necrosis. It isn't a simple scratch or something. It's far beyond that. Originated from bad husbandry and in the wild, they'd never experience this.

[EmbraceCalamity]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Show respect to whom? Some nobody who is more worried about his wallet than his animal? Proven in the first post. I'm right and that's what matters. I don't attack anyone, I just point out the faults and the reality of the situation.

No, I don't run to an ER ever. I have never been actually. As Lady_Bug pointed out, this is necrosis. It isn't a simple scratch or something. It's far beyond that. Originated from bad husbandry and in the wild, they'd never experience this.

Actually, she said it "*could*" be necrosis and "*could*" cause more problems.

~Maggot

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by EmbraceCalamity

Actually, she said it "*could*" be necrosis and "*could*" cause more problems.

~Maggot

Do you have reading comprehension or do you just point out posts that benefit your view so you can feel like you belong in the conversation?

I have stated in previous posts that I'm talking worst case scenario and that it shouldn't be taken lightly as it can kill the snake.

Also, what do you think killed the tail in the first place? Butterflies and rainbows? Sure wasn't a respitory infection. Necrosis has in fact been apart of this situation.

[EmbraceCalamity]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Do you have reading comprehension or do you just point out posts that benefit your view so you can feel like you belong in the conversation?

I have stated in previous posts that I'm talking worst case scenario and that it shouldn't be taken lightly as it can kill the snake.

Also, what do you think killed the tail in the first place? Butterflies and rainbows? Sure wasn't a respitory infection. Necrosis has in fact been apart of this situation.

I'm not saying whether it is or not (though you seem to be switching back and forth between "worst case scenario" and "has in fact been apart of this situation"). But you claimed lady_bug said that this "is" necrosis, and I was pointing out that she didn't. She took great care to emphasize the word "could," which you seemed to ignore.

But yes, I do have reading comprehension, hence me picking up on the word "could."

~Maggot

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by EmbraceCalamity

I'm not saying whether it is or not (though you seem to be switching back and forth between "worst case scenario" and "has in fact been apart of this situation"). But you claimed lady_bug said that this "is" necrosis, and I was pointing out that she didn't. She took great care to emphasize the word "could," which you seemed to ignore.

But yes, I do have reading comprehension, hence me picking up on the word "could."

~Maggot

I just wanted to stop the confusion you seem to have had with my words.

The situation: Shed skin didn't come off the tip of the tail. It had no circulation so it "died", this is called necrosis, the fell off. (see how it's apart of the situation).

Now as I stated, WORST CASE SCENARIO from that point forward is that the healthy tissue can still be infected and no one will know until symptoms show up again and at that point could be too late leading to the snakes death.

Now do you see how I actually wasn't switching "back and forth" but stating two parts of the situation.


I do see the new pictures and despite people having panties in a wad, I've continually gave out the right advice.

[lady_bug87]

Originally Posted by EmbraceCalamity

Actually, she said it "*could*" be necrosis and "*could*" cause more problems.

~Maggot

I use the word *could* because I am not there to physically see the animal.

However I am leaning toward the tail being the result of necrosis based on the information being given but since I'm not there and I am not a vet I will leave absolutes to those more comfortable making them.

The one experience I had with binding sheds is with my lacerta. My male had a bound shed that I did not notice since their tails are ribbed. When I saw it it had already bulged and I knew it would fall off. It was the last 2mm of tail when it did fall off I consulted with a friend and he advised me the same as I am advising the op.

He said if I saw the tail discolor I better go to a vet. These lizards regenerate their tail. His tail tip grew back without incident. Had he not been a species that regenerated its tail I believe the result would have been different. But there was still a risk.

[EmbraceCalamity]

Originally Posted by lady_bug87

I use the word *could* because I am not there to physically see the animal.

However I am leaning toward the tail being the result of necrosis based on the information being given but since I'm not there and I am not a vet I will leave absolutes to those more comfortable making them.

The one experience I had with binding sheds is with my lacerta. My male had a bound shed that I did not notice since their tails are ribbed. When I saw it it had already bulged and I knew it would fall off. It was the last 2mm of tail when it did fall off I consulted with a friend and he advised me the same as I am advising the op.

He said if I saw the tail discolor I better go to a vet. These lizards regenerate their tail. His tail tip grew back without incident. Had he not been a species that regenerated its tail I believe the result would have been different. But there was still a risk.

I understand that. I personally can't tell from the pic what's black that shouldn't be, and I just don't think it's a good idea to tell someone their snake is going to be eaten alive by dead skin based on a blurry pic, which is why I asked for a better one. But vets are always a good idea if people aren't sure of things.

Also, I didn't know lacertas regrew their tails. That kind of surprises me for some reason.

~Maggot