need a little help here

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by tommy757

the thing our buddy above just said was that his balls do fine in a small enclosure and so do all of our retics and thats the point if it works and well,why change it.
Aaron why so aggressive you show youre inexperiance and ignorance by tryin to beat up on people who dont agree with you ,oh and by the way if any of the big name guys are right not just the private keepers then retics are just fine in 8/10 foot enclosures since bobs been doing it for 30 years right along with the baldagos and tom crutchfield hell man the list goes on and on its no longer opinion when every major player in the game does it the same way and buddy you are inexperianced with maybe 10 years ive got double that also with healthy snakes and a zero mortality rate Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm maybe im doin it right

it seems you justify the tiny tiny enclosure because you breed well congrats but the green eyed monster is starring at ya bud dont get Butt hurt

oh and in the 90,s you were still watchin barney youre first herp while I had real snakes.

Can you please start properly typing and making coherent sentences so I can understand your points easier. Thanks. My kiddie eyes don't read gibberish well.

First of, my argument is they shouldn't be owned in the first place. Nobody needs to own giants. Especially in tiny enclosures. As I said, if you breed, go ahead. All those people you mentioned breed for a living, I believe they are the exception to the rule. We're talking about the person who owns one or two.

It's funny how I'm "aggressive" and not just passionate in my opinion. Yet, the "informed" and "experienced" are the ones who take shots at my character and age. By the way, congratulations for being born before me I'll give you a cookie.

Also, apparently age means experience to you. I've said it multiple times that I've had experience and yet it's washed aside because I don't side with YOU. That's just sad. I'm open-minded to concede my points when given but I have yet to have a solid reason why they should be kept in general.

[tommy757]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Can you please start properly typing and making coherent sentences so I can understand your points easier. Thanks. My kiddie eyes don't read gibberish well.

First of, my argument is they shouldn't be owned in the first place. Nobody needs to own giants. Especially in tiny enclosures. As I said, if you breed, go ahead. All those people you mentioned breed for a living, I believe they are the exception to the rule. We're talking about the person who owns one or two.

It's funny how I'm "aggressive" and not just passionate in my opinion. Yet, the "informed" and "experienced" are the ones who take shots at my character and age. By the way, congratulations for being born before me I'll give you a cookie.

Also, apparently age means experience to you. I've said it multiple times that I've had experience and yet it's washed aside because I don't side with YOU. That's just sad. I'm open-minded to concede my points when given but I have yet to have a solid reason why they should be kept in general.

well as you said you a opposed to them being kept at all so it doesnt matter that a huge portion of us use the accepted method of housing?I feel no matter what is said or how its presented you sir are a keyboard warrior who can hide in safety from a legitamite discussion and balk at anyone that has a different view on the same hobbie you sir are the reason we as a hobbie are divided being determined to alienate those that dont agree w/ you...is that the proper response you were looking for?
One final point in youre own words if you profit from them than anything is acceptable so who here is morally bankrupt not I for keeping my animals in clean ,safe,enviroment feeding them only the best and diverse food sources.While they live in a blissful state free from parasites and predators and yes unlike you stuffed into a tub because you make money off thier suffering !Is this clear have a great day running youre puppy mill at least in principle.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by tommy757

well as you said you a opposed to them being kept at all so it doesnt matter that a huge portion of us use the accepted method of housing?I feel no matter what is said or how its presented you sir are a keyboard warrior who can hide in safety from a legitamite discussion and balk at anyone that has a different view on the same hobbie you sir are the reason we as a hobbie are divided being determined to alienate those that dont agree w/ you...is that the proper response you were looking for?
One final point in youre own words if you profit from them than anything is acceptable so who here is morally bankrupt not I for keeping my animals in clean ,safe,enviroment feeding them only the best and diverse food sources.While they live in a blissful state free from parasites and predators and yes unlike you stuffed into a tub because you make money off thier suffering !Is this clear have a great day running youre puppy mill at least in principle.

I am okay with a legit discussion the problem is who it's with, not what it's about. I have facts, honest to god FACTS about my opinions and I have YET to see one from a giant keeper. First it was "they never kill" and then I dug up 6 articles that dates back to the early 90's that they in fact have.

I'm not a keyboard warrior. I'd gladly meet anyone for an actual conversation and not some tongue wagging from a group of people who can't actual make a proper argument with facts. All I ever see are pics of huge retics with people who THINK they have some sort of control.

I don't need to alienate those who disagree with me. I actually have plenty of friends, even on this forum, who disagree with me on things and yet we get along just fine and have GREAT conversation. Heck I even made a member cry and now we have great, well thought out debates for the sheer fun of it. If you or one of the other mythical patheon wish to do so as well feel free to PM me.

Lastly, do you even know what a puppy mill is? I openly admit I'm a farmer but not a puppy mill. My animals aren't sick, bred to death, they are fed properly and clean. Not everything is acceptable for money as I've stated I don't "mill" my animals but it's okay you keep slinging mud at me and try the deflection route.It isn't working though.