Scared for my boa - Page 14

spyke · 01-23-13, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Lankyrob

But what about the eggs? Killing the mites is one thing but if you dont kill the eggs in the enclosure then you arent solving the problem

thats why i said rinse and repeat, you would have to do this a few times.

i have only had what i thought were mites 2 times on my ball pythons anyways the first time i used nix and it definitely worked, second time i was going to nix again but then a friend told me that it is harmful, and recommended ivory soap so i tried and it worked, that is my experience.
there are others who use and recommend ivory on the net, but i dont want to be the one who told yo to believe everything you read on the net.

now i do know that nix is bad for even humans, so im just saying that if you have the time there is a safer way to do it,
your snakes may not show any ill signs at first but who knows what they could later develop in life.

anyways this is getting off topic, use what you will,

edit: i guess i shouldnt have asked a question when im trying to not derail any further

Lankyrob · 01-23-13, 10:03 AM

Sorry buti cant see how just treating the snake and not the enclosure would ever get rid of ALL the mites as they are continually layingg eggs in the enclosure.

How many times/how long did you rinse and repeat for before yours were clear?

Terranaut · 01-23-13, 12:00 PM

Soap and water will not kill the eggs and unless your drowning them will not kill the mites. The reason some put soap in the water when bathing a snake with mites it to reduce the miniscus(sp?) affect of the water which makes it near impossible for the mite to climb up your snake to safety. Nix is very safe when used the right way at the right mix. The dosage needed to eliminate the mites is quite safe for 99% of the sankes we own. PAM is also safe but more people seem to screw up with it than Nix. I have no idea why but it's true. Read lables and watch videos on youtube regarding the use of either of these and your good to go.
Again plain soap and water will not do the job.

spyke · 01-23-13, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lankyrob

Sorry buti cant see how just treating the snake and not the enclosure would ever get rid of ALL the mites as they are continually layingg eggs in the enclosure.

How many times/how long did you rinse and repeat for before yours were clear?

obviously you have to clean the enclosure as well, i didnt realize i had to walk you thru it.

imo i dont care how safe people say it is, the fact is its active ingredient is a harmful neurotoxin and i will not have anything to do with it near my animals, and i will also let people know this info as well , its up to you what you want to use, ivory soap works, nix works , pam works they all work so now its up to you whether or not you care to expose yourself and your animals to it!

to each their own

ivory soap and water will do the job, what did the old timers do before permethrin?

Terranaut · 01-23-13, 02:10 PM

No offence but ivory soap can also harm your snake and still not kikl the mites.

EmbraceCalamity · 01-23-13, 02:54 PM

I found this: Understanding Insecticidal Soaps and Detergents - GreenMethods.com (As a note on the source before the question can be posed: "Dr. Raymond A. Cloyd is an Associate Professor and Extension Specialist in Ornamental Entomology and Integrated Pest Management for the Department of Entomology at Kansas State University (KSU).")

Of course, those aren't snake mites, just spider mites, aphids, psyllids, thrips, and green mites. I guess the only way to know for sure would be to try it.

~Maggot

dinosaurdammit · 01-25-13, 01:23 AM

Well guys. She took a turn south. She lays on her side and just cant function. Yesterday she was acting sifferent. Tiday when i handled her she was dead limp, her belly muscles just cave Inwards like there is no tone. No tongue action, wont move and just bad. Vet tomorrow but I think shes run her run all she can

Terranaut · 01-25-13, 02:16 AM

Omg. So very sorry

Lankyrob · 01-25-13, 06:23 AM

So sorry

Gungirl · 01-25-13, 06:34 AM

Aww.. I was very hopeful for a full recovery. You had her doing so well it seemed. Sorry she took a turn for the worst but understand that you did all you could to better her.

SpOoKy · 01-25-13, 09:42 AM

So sorry the hear this

**Aaron_S** · 01-25-13, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by spyke

obviously you have to clean the enclosure as well, i didnt realize i had to walk you thru it.

imo i dont care how safe people say it is, the fact is its active ingredient is a harmful neurotoxin and i will not have anything to do with it near my animals, and i will also let people know this info as well , its up to you what you want to use, ivory soap works, nix works , pam works they all work so now its up to you whether or not you care to expose yourself and your animals to it!

to each their own

ivory soap and water will do the job, what did the old timers do before permethrin?

I really hope you aren't the same person I'm thinking you are....

First off, sorry for the turn South.

For mites, old timers used vapona on top of enclosures at one point or even in small delis cut up and a couple holes in it placed IN the enclosure. Not everything they did, was done right.

Personally, I'm okay with Nix since it's used for your human head. Just make sure it's diluted properly.

Zoo Nanny · 01-25-13, 10:35 AM

I am so very sorry to see your update. She seemed to be doing so much better under your care. You've given her so much more than most would, maybe the vet will have a trick or two up his sleeve.

dinosaurdammit · 01-25-13, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoo Nanny

I am so very sorry to see your update. She seemed to be doing so much better under your care. You've given her so much more than most would, maybe the vet will have a trick or two up his sleeve.

I go today at 3. Im just a mess. I cant stop crying. I too am sick with pneumonia so every time i start to cry a coughing fit starts. I just want to fix her so she can be a happy healthy snake. Bless her heart she has tried so hard. When i put her on the floor she does her best to slither over to me and rest her head. I know she feels safe with me which pains me the most because I fear I will betray her if I have to put her down. But i feel like she is suffering. She seeks me out. Ive been sitting all morning with her in my apron like a kangaroo, just so I could hold her.

Terranaut · 01-25-13, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dinosaurdammit

I go today at 3. Im just a mess. I cant stop crying. I too am sick with pneumonia so every time i start to cry a coughing fit starts. I just want to fix her so she can be a happy healthy snake. Bless her heart she has tried so hard. When i put her on the floor she does her best to slither over to me and rest her head. I know she feels safe with me which pains me the most because I fear I will betray her if I have to put her down. But i feel like she is suffering. She seeks me out. Ive been sitting all morning with her in my apron like a kangaroo, just so I could hold her.

If you must put her down rest assured you are helping her not betraying her. If kharma exisits your cup is full and you gone beyond what most would have done.