need a little help here

[tommy757]

Well ive been reading this thread and it seems that all of the people who are responsible for the lage snake hobbie are just blithering idiots AKA Bob Clark ,Tom Crutchfield ,Kevin w/ N.e.r.d and so on and so and so on are just slow and unsuccesful in thier care of these awesome creatures along w/ everyone on the RETIC NATION for doing it almost exactly the same as the titans of the hobbie and Im a member there Aaron S. lets do a couple of rounds if ya feel ready its no problem even after the hippocrit says he keeps his poor deprived Balls in a rack w/ tubs .With the logic provided here by the small keepers as well as the guy w/ a very small retic, Balls should be kept in the cages generally approved for retics to give the little guys room to peruse and sand boas should have cages w/ hieght to allow them to climb .SMH some of this discussion is just silly w/ the uninformed and inexperianced preaching off the soapbox

[Lankyrob]

Originally Posted by tommy757

Well ive been reading this thread and it seems that all of the people who are responsible for the lage snake hobbie are just blithering idiots AKA Bob Clark ,Tom Crutchfield ,Kevin w/ N.e.r.d and so on and so and so on are just slow and unsuccesful in thier care of these awesome creatures along w/ everyone on the RETIC NATION for doing it almost exactly the same as the titans of the hobbie and Im a member there Aaron S. lets do a couple of rounds if ya feel ready its no problem even after the hippocrit says he keeps his poor deprived Balls in a rack w/ tubs .With the logic provided here by the small keepers as well as the guy w/ a very small retic, Balls should be kept in the cages generally approved for retics to give the little guys room to peruse and sand boas should have cages w/ hieght to allow them to climb .SMH some of this discussion is just silly w/ the uninformed and inexperianced preaching off the soapbox

So as an experienced keeper can you explain why the common rules for housing change when the snake reaches a certain length? And what length would you say this is? I am really genuinely interested to hear your thoughts on this.

[tommy757]

Originally Posted by Lankyrob

So as an experienced keeper can you explain why the common rules for housing change when the snake reaches a certain length? And what length would you say this is? I am really genuinely interested to hear your thoughts on this.

the method that was always used when I came up was the length of the snake halved by 3 deep and 2 high so a 16 foot snake should have an 8x3x2 most people when imahining a large retic imagine twinkie from PP wher as my 15 foot female is not even in the same league which means in her cage out of 24 sq feet of floor she would be lucky if she used 4 sq feet of it and the rules that everyone keeps mentioning where did the come from and how did they become reptile law if you dont mind me asking?

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by tommy757

Well ive been reading this thread and it seems that all of the people who are responsible for the lage snake hobbie are just blithering idiots AKA Bob Clark ,Tom Crutchfield ,Kevin w/ N.e.r.d and so on and so and so on are just slow and unsuccesful in thier care of these awesome creatures along w/ everyone on the RETIC NATION for doing it almost exactly the same as the titans of the hobbie and Im a member there Aaron S. lets do a couple of rounds if ya feel ready its no problem even after the hippocrit says he keeps his poor deprived Balls in a rack w/ tubs .With the logic provided here by the small keepers as well as the guy w/ a very small retic, Balls should be kept in the cages generally approved for retics to give the little guys room to peruse and sand boas should have cages w/ hieght to allow them to climb .SMH some of this discussion is just silly w/ the uninformed and inexperianced preaching off the soapbox

Funny how we're all uninformed. When someone apparently has a differing opinion they aren't "informed" or "experienced". I've owned burms and retics. I guess ignorance and closed-minded are requirements to be apart of the Mythical Patheon.

By the way, are we back in the 90s? Where we keep every animal the same? Oh every species needs the same space and environment. Update your information.

My ball pythons are quite fine in their enclosures. It's been PROVEN many times that they do well in smaller enclosures. I have kept dozens of sand boas by the way. Yet to see one climb, no matter what. Mine stay buried.

By the way, I believe if you have a couple ball pythons a proper enclosure,not gigantic either, (not fish cage) is more appropriate than my tubs. I breed my ball pythons so I have a rack system. They thrive and do fine. I also don't breed just five. I have 56 breeding females this season. One of my goals is to make all the wicked cool mutations more common so the price is affordable for everyone.

When you can make a sensible argument instead of just saying we're uninformed and inexperienced you can come back. Make an informed rebuttal.